
Session Start: Fri Oct 07 00:00:01 2005
Session Ident: #dsdev
[01:14] <DarkFader> http://akusho.xs4all.nl/temp/taihen.zip
[01:14] <DarkFader> now spread it to whoever you don't like
[01:14] <buZz`> :)
[01:14] <DarkFader> like uhm roms forums etc
[01:15] <buZz`> This is a small hentai slideshow for the Nintendo DS.
[01:15] <buZz`> Enjoy!
[01:15] <buZz`> :P
[01:15] <Patater> ooo, it's called hard in japanese
[01:15] <Patater> hard or difficult
[01:16] <DarkFader> trouble :)
[01:16] <Patater> not so much "trouble"
[01:16] <cred|GPRS> haha
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[01:17] <Chishm> I don't think I will run it somehow. I can recover my CF and GBAMP, but I'm not to sure about my DS firmware
[01:18] <DarkFader> you can run it with wmb to be safer and just risk DS firmware :)
[01:18] <Chishm> No thanks. You should post it on pocketheaven and tell them it lets the GBAMP play commercial ROMs
[01:19] <DarkFader> perhaps I should modify it a bit then
[01:19] <DarkFader> it's kind of big now
[01:19] <DarkFader> and doesn't force the user to use a flashcart
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[01:20] <Mithos|zZ> darkfader what was that I killed my DS
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[01:20] <buZz`> http://akusho.xs4all.nl/temp/taihen.zip
[01:20] <Mithos|zZ> WTF i actually ran that shit.. NOOOOO
[01:21] <davr> are we going to see a new post on symantec tomorrow telling us about the new trojan.NDSbrick?
[01:21] <Shoryu> lol
[01:21] <Mithos|zZ> Darkfader.???
[01:21] <buZz`> Darkfader.*
[01:21] <buZz`> :)
[01:21] <buZz`> NOTHING GOOD WILL EVER COME OF HIM
[01:21] * DarkFader goes to bed
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[01:22] <DarkFader> bye bye... zzzz
[01:22] <Mithos|zZ> Darkfader. Please
[01:22] * [NDS] sets mode: +v ahaki01
[01:22] <Chishm> Mithos, do you have a flash cart?
[01:22] <DarkFader> try flashme recovery procedure
[01:22] <Mithos|zZ> I have flashcart
[01:22] <Chishm> Just what I was about to suggest
[01:22] <Mithos|zZ> but DS dont boot at all
[01:23] <Chishm> Put flashme on it, then start the DS holding A+B+X+Y
[01:23] <Mithos|zZ> ok.
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[01:23] <HonkyKong> Aw crap, you actually ran it?!
[01:24] <Mithos|zZ> never saw what he said before ;p
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[01:24] <buZz`> :D
[01:24] <buZz`> Mithos|zZ: you got learned a good lesson
[01:24] <buZz`> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/vmaranise/intarwebs2qv.jpg <--- that lesson
[01:24] <Chishm> At least you had flashme to start with
[01:24] <Mithos|zZ> anyway.. NDS was Flashmed.
[01:24] <HonkyKong> Hehe
[01:25] <ahaki01> ran what?
[01:25] <Chishm> Lucky. An original DS would be screwed
[01:25] <HonkyKong> http://akusho.xs4all.nl/temp/taihen.zip
[01:25] <buZz`> http://akusho.xs4all.nl/temp/taihen.zip
[01:25] <Mithos|zZ> that erase the freaking firmware ;p
[01:25] <buZz`> not the first 64kb or something ;)
[01:26] <Chishm> But if you don't have flashme, you're screwed anyway
[01:26] <LunarC|hw> that's evil >.<
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[01:26] <[jsb]work> yawn
[01:27] <LunarC|hw> heh, stressful trivia game: it erases the firmware, then writes it back if you get teh question right =P
[01:27] <HonkyKong> Hehe
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[01:27] <Chishm> I foresee a few topics on gbadev.org asking for help
[01:27] <HonkyKong> Russian Roulette
[01:27] <LunarC|hw> me too =(
[01:27] <Snillfisk> erase a random byte instead
[01:28] <HonkyKong> I'm wishing that would have been out a few hours ago.
[01:28] <Snillfisk> that would be more .. scary :o
[01:28] <HonkyKong> Because then I could have given that to the dipshit on GBADev instead of the Tubgirl loader
[01:28] <LunarC|hw> HonkyKong, who are you talking about?
[01:29] <HonkyKong> Hang on, I'll get a link
[01:29] <Chishm> You mean blasteryui
[01:29] <HonkyKong> Yeah
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[01:29] <Chishm> A mod has deleted those topics now, I think
[01:29] <HonkyKong> Tepples locked the one where I sent him to put Tubgirl on his DS
[01:30] * LunarC|hw has still resisted the urge to check out what tubgirl is =P
[01:30] <creepypla> Chrism, mah gbamp is having teh pr0bl3ms, it wont run t3h gb4 romz
[01:30] <buZz`> will it ever run gba roms?
[01:31] <DarkFader> shall I make different version that's a supposedly loader? ;)
[01:31] <HonkyKong> :D
[01:31] <buZz`> hmm
[01:31] <buZz`> HonkyKong has source
[01:32] <buZz`> :)
[01:32] <HonkyKong> Indeed.
[01:32] <Chishm> You do?
[01:32] <buZz`> he does
[01:32] <HonkyKong> For the tubgirl loader. :P
[01:32] <[jsb]work> hehehe tubgirl
[01:32] <Mithos|zZ> man I cant get it back.
[01:32] <HonkyKong> Actually, Rusty_ has the source for the one that we nailed blasteryui with.
[01:33] <Chishm> Mithos, Did you put flashme on the flashcart?
[01:33] <Mithos|zZ> yes.
[01:33] <HonkyKong> Dammit, Tepples deleted the topic
[01:33] * [jsb]work loves flashme
[01:34] * HonkyKong mirrors it
[01:34] * DarkFader writes some txt file
[01:34] <Chishm> Then, when starting up did you hold A+B+X+Y?
[01:34] <Mithos|zZ> yes
[01:34] <_0xtob> Here's my soon-to-come ds site with a tutorial on tiles and ERB on one screen: http://DS.TobW.net
[01:35] <DarkFader> anyone got that fake loader screenshot? ;P
[01:35] <buZz`> hehe
[01:35] <[jsb]work> fake loader screenshot?
[01:35] <HonkyKong> Nope.
[01:35] <Chishm> Well I can't think what to do next.
[01:35] <buZz`> based on tubgirl source ^_^
[01:35] <HonkyKong> Showing http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/vmaranise/intarwebs2qv.jpg when it's done would be cool. :D
[01:36] <DarkFader> naaah
[01:36] * cred|GPRS hungry
[01:36] * HonkyKong is having a nic fit
[01:37] * HonkyKong steps outside
[01:37] <Mithos|zZ> ahh well bricked DS then I guess.
[01:37] <DarkFader> a brick picture ! :P
[01:37] <[jsb]work> how did you fuck up flashme?
[01:37] <Mithos|zZ> I mean my actuall DS thiugh =(
[01:37] <Chishm> And a dirty rotten pirate message
[01:38] <Mithos|zZ> the "save part" of firmware "protected or what is still there" so I shoold be able to fix it.
[01:38] <[jsb]work> it dose everything for you, you just gota hold something in sl1 slot
[01:38] <_vandal_> yes, how did you fuck it up? i was going to flash tonight, but now im scarred
[01:38] <buZz`> maybe audio ' I'M BRICKING MY NDS ATM '
[01:38] <[jsb]work> its sooooo easy
[01:38] <Mithos|zZ> jsb
[01:38] <HonkyKong> buZz`: Nice. :)\
[01:38] <HonkyKong> Kinda like lastmeasure
[01:38] <Mithos|zZ> I tested that shit Darkfader made that eraser the firmware and now I cant repair it =(
[01:39] <[jsb]work> oh shit
[01:39] <Mithos|zZ> however the protected part of firmware is intact since you need SL1 short to erase that part.
[01:39] <[jsb]work> darkfader look what you have done to mithos ds :P
[01:40] <[jsb]work> can you boot with just the protected part of the firmware?
[01:40] <Chishm> If DarkFader tested it, then he must be able to fix it
[01:40] <Shoryu> taihen evil power
[01:40] <[jsb]work> I didn't think you could
[01:40] <poffy> http://files.redvsblue.com/4x62contest/RvB_Episode62_LoRes.mov
[01:40] <Mithos|zZ> jsb: dunno if you can boot on that
[01:41] <DarkFader> ok, bricks picture done
[01:41] <[jsb]work> I wouldn't think so...  but I'm not the person to ask
[01:41] <DarkFader> now I need to finish the txt file
[01:41] <Mithos|zZ> DarkFader: my DS is dead now then ?
[01:41] <[jsb]work> like you finished mithos ds
[01:41] <[jsb]work> hehehe
[01:42] <[jsb]work> get the extended warrenty at eb, I have returned 3 ds's to them allready
[01:42] <[jsb]work> they don't give a fuck
[01:42] <[jsb]work> just pay the 15$ and get a new one
[01:42] <_vandal_> you cant get the warranty once you bought it elsewhere, can you?
[01:42] <[jsb]work> oh no you can't
[01:43] <_vandal_> :/
[01:43] <Mithos|zZ> Well FlashME is supposed to be protected from this..
[01:43] <[jsb]work> you only have so many days to buy it after you buy the ds from them
[01:43] <DarkFader> http://akusho.xs4all.nl/temp/r0mloader.zip     >:)
[01:43] <DarkFader> spread that to romz forums
[01:43] <_vandal_> do they double check the serial number when you return it?
[01:44] <_vandal_> if not buy a 2nd ds, return the first, and sell off the other new one
[01:44] <Mithos|zZ> DarkFader: my DS is dead now then ?
[01:44] <DarkFader> dunno
[01:44] <Mithos|zZ> it was FlashME flashed...
[01:44] <buZz`> it shouldnt be
[01:44] <buZz`> maybe you didnt flash it to gba right
[01:44] <buZz`> you used 'fix rom header' etc?
[01:44] <cred|GPRS> but SL1 wasn't bridged
[01:45] <buZz`> you need to turn all that shit off
[01:45] <Chishm> Curiosity killed the DS
[01:45] <Mithos|zZ> Flashme on DS was correct.. flashing to GBA is correct. I need to SL1 bridge now too to fix again ?
[01:46] <DarkFader> for forums: http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2L8PULZJOAPC81ON3J27LRY0M2
[01:46] * DarkFader zzzz for real now
[01:46] <Mithos|zZ> man this sux
[01:47] <_vandal_> hehe, is romloader.zip a DS sabatouger?
[01:47] <DarkFader> yep
[01:47] <DarkFader> and also shows a nice brick wall
[01:47] <Mithos|zZ> this shit could end up in any homebrew now.. and noone can fix his/her DS...
[01:47] <_vandal_> sick, what will it do? the same thing that you did to Mithos|zZ's DS?
[01:48] <[jsb]work> once your ds has been flashme flashed you should have the safty to always restore from gba
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[01:49] <[jsb]work> unless you short sl1 and over write it
[01:49] <cred|GPRS> then you're doooooomed
[01:51] <Mithos|zZ> A+B+START+SELECT and flashme started from Cart
[01:51] <ahak_Car> there is a way with parr port & wire connections
[01:51] <ahak_Car> google it
[01:51] <Mithos|zZ> stopped on 65%
[01:51] <Chishm> I just had a thought: Isn't this illgal? Wilfull destruction of property?
[01:52] <DarkFader> hmmm
[01:52] <[jsb]work> when it stoped did you loose contact with sl1?
[01:52] <[jsb]work> you can just recontact and it should continue
[01:52] <Mithos|zZ> have not bridged Sl1 yet..
[01:52] <Forza> what?
[01:52] <Forza> it would be @0
[01:53] <DarkFader> no
[01:53] <Mithos|zZ> DS was already FlashME:d
[01:53] <Forza> i just did flashme a few hours ago
[01:53] <Mithos|zZ> so it runs to 65% if you flash again..
[01:53] <DarkFader> hmm
[01:53] <[jsb]work> mithos: then you should be able to restore, if you didn't short
[01:53] <Mithos|zZ> yeah..
[01:53] <[jsb]work> when it stops just short sl1
[01:53] <[jsb]work> it should continue
[01:53] <Mithos|zZ> gonne duble and tripple check before doing anything more.
[01:54] <[jsb]work> its not rocket sci...  just start the flasher and stick something metal in the hole
[01:54] <pab|o> Ok, I know this has probably been mentioned before, but will it be possible in the future to use Multiplayer GBA games using the DS wireless?
[01:55] <DesktopMa> not even remotely.
[01:55] <[jsb]work> pab: uh, not unless someone emulated gba on ds
[01:55] <[jsb]work> and why would you do that
[01:55] <olivery2k> to use wireless for multiplayer?
[01:55] <[jsb]work> even then I think the timing wouldn't be correct
[01:55] <[jsb]work> and it would never work
[01:56] <pab|o> ok :( thanks
[01:56] * [jsb]work is no master coder tho
[01:57] <Mithos|zZ> yay!
[01:57] <[jsb]work> the ds lives?
[01:57] <Mithos|zZ> its alive!
[01:57] <HonkyKong> :D
[01:57] <[jsb]work> mithos: good for you
[01:57] <Mithos|zZ> was not ABXY at boot
[01:57] <Mithos|zZ> was: A+B+START+SELECT
[01:58] <Mithos|zZ> thanx Chuck`
[01:59] <Mithos|zZ> that was... really scary 
[01:59] <Chishm> Strange, the flashme website says ABXY
[01:59] <Mithos|zZ> that maybe was the "old" version ?
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[01:59] <Mithos|zZ> when it had the flashme.ds.gba version to download?
[01:59] <HonkyKong> http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3144370 <-- Interesting
[02:00] <HonkyKong> Never seen Square-Enix make a sports game before.
[02:00] <[jsb]work> honky: thats what I said, but it dose look fun
[02:00] <Mithos|zZ> Mario basket 3 vs 3
[02:00] <HonkyKong> Yep
[02:00] <Mithos|zZ> MANY games from SE for Nintendo..
[02:00] <[jsb]work> could be a blast with wifi multiplayer
[02:01] <HonkyKong> About time
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[02:01] <deltro2> DS > PSP.
[02:01] <HonkyKong> Indeed.
[02:01] <Mithos|zZ> Maybe we will se a FF/ remake for DS in the future too ;p
[02:01] <[jsb]work> it took ds sometime, but now its software it going to crush that psp
[02:01] <deltro2> Yea.
[02:01] <deltro2> Homebrew, and real.
[02:01] <HonkyKong> Nintendo needs to get Square Enix back badly.
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[02:02] <deltro2> OSHO Resi Evil DS >_>
[02:02] <Mithos|zZ> deltro + Honkeykong:  http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5001/pspownage1xb.jpg
[02:02] <Mithos|zZ> DarkFader: thanx for an interesting night ;p
[02:02] <deltro2> LMFAO
[02:03] <deltro2> <3 Mithos|zZ .
[02:04] <[jsb]work> things with square have never been the same since the snes
[02:04] <deltro2> That sounds gay.
[02:04] <deltro2> GTA's Multiplayer.
[02:04] <Mithos|zZ> GTA on PSP will have ultiplayer?
[02:04] <Mithos|zZ> +m
[02:04] <deltro2> HAHA... yea.
[02:05] <[jsb]work> they wanted cd media becasue the games were big $$$
[02:05] <deltro2> It's like deathmatch.
[02:05] <Mithos|zZ> LOL
[02:05] <deltro2> http://psp.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3144247&did=18
[02:05] <Chishm> So who wants to send r0mloader.zip to blasteryui?
[02:05] <cred|GPRS> GTA 2 multiplayer was fun
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[02:06] <Mithos|zZ> yeah, but that game was a little bit diffrent from todays GTA.
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[02:07] <olivery2k> yup ... in fact, it was better 
[02:08] <Mithos|zZ> isn't GTA "1+2 gfx styl2 out on GBA?
[02:08] <Mithos|zZ> sorry about spelling. a bit wired up right now and it 02:00 AM
[02:08] <HonkyKong> Yeah
[02:08] <HonkyKong> GTA Advance
[02:08] <cred|GPRS> you can download GTA1/2 from their site for free
[02:08] <HonkyKong> There was also a GTA game for GBC
[02:09] <Mithos|zZ> Alread have GTA 1/2 somewere on some cd..
[02:09] <olivery2k> no mac version :(
[02:10] <Ixthus> dammit DarkFader's trojan scares me. I un-flashed my DS firmware to send it in for repairs. I have to reflash it when it gets back to me soon
[02:11] <Mithos|zZ> how do you think I felt ;p
[02:12] <cred|GPRS> <[jsb]work> things with square have never been the same since the snes <--- since Square and ENIX become Square enix their games became boring
[02:12] <cred|GPRS> stupid ?
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[02:13] <Mithos|zZ> not really.. more like freaked out..
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[02:14] <cred|GPRS> didn't DarkFader say that it's a virus ?
[02:14] <HonkyKong> Yeah, but Mithos|zZ didn't scroll up and read that. :P
[02:14] <HonkyKong> Until it was too late.
[02:14] <Mithos|zZ> what HK said 
[02:15] <Mithos|zZ> I guess MANY forumposts i future will be about brickified DS:es
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[02:15] <HonkyKong> Serves 'em right.
[02:16] <olivery2k> lessons learned: don't click every link posted on IRC
[02:16] <Mithos|zZ> hehe..
[02:16] <olivery2k> don't use software you don't know
[02:16] <HonkyKong> People will probably only give it to those who deserve it
[02:16] <Mithos|zZ> Sad for those without FlashME on DS...
[02:16] <HonkyKong> Testing in emulators is a good idea too.
[02:16] <Mithos|zZ> hell no. its out now it will spread like bushfire.
[02:16] <HonkyKong> Just like PSPBrick, huh?
[02:17] <Mithos|zZ> yeah,.
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[02:18] <Mithos|zZ> what did you think about: http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5001/pspownage1xb.jpg
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[02:20] <olivery2k> <Mithos|zZ>	what did you think about: http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5001/pspownage1xb.jpg <-- hungry
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[02:21] <Mithos|zZ> hehe
[02:21] <olivery2k> no, really that pic somehow makes me hungry
[02:21] <Ixthus> for PSP?
[02:21] <Ixthus> with mustard?
[02:21] <kiwibonga> hrmm
[02:21] <kiwibonga> how can we protect from that thing
[02:22] <olivery2k> i doubt that would taste good ..
[02:22] <Ixthus> wear a condom
[02:22] <kiwibonga> what if some asshole comes in and is like "pls test this for me on hardware"
[02:22] <Ixthus> no one here talks like that
[02:22] <kiwibonga> I know
[02:23] <Mithos|zZ> make sure your DS is FlashME'd kiwi
[02:23] <kiwibonga> because there's no assholes here
[02:23] <kiwibonga> lawlll
[02:23] <creepypla> how do I make an array equal another array
[02:24] <sc1> i highly doubt that the loader will spread outside of this channel :|
[02:26] <cred|GPRS> just post it on the newsgroups
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[02:27] <creepypla> do I have to use a for loop to make 2 arrays = eachother
[02:28] <olivery2k> you can use a for loop
[02:29] <kiwibonga> creepypla, might be better to dma copy
[02:30] <kiwibonga> (and easier, incidentally :P)
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[02:31] <kiwibonga> anyway guys... "serves them right" isn't the responsible way to handle dangerous software being linked to in here...
[02:31] <sc1> yeah
[02:31] <kiwibonga> we have quite a bit of enthusiasts who love to flash anything they see on their DS and don't speak this language so well
[02:31] <sc1> it sets off a dangerous precedent
[02:32] <kiwibonga> "learn english or die" isn't nice either ;p
[02:32] <sc1> cant wait until someone forges the infos of a ds dev
[02:32] <sc1> and releases some cool apps
[02:32] <sc1> and a lot of people ends up get owned
[02:32] <sc1> because they wanted to try some cool, regular homebrew app
[02:32] <kiwibonga> but even so... what if some fucker submits his "demo" to ndshb or drunkencoders and gets the maintainers' DSes bricked
[02:33] <sc1> exactly
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[02:36] <HonkyKong> This was possible months ago, it's not like it's something new.
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[02:36] <HonkyKong> You run that risk on any homebrew app.
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[02:37] <Mithos|zZ> FlashME on every DS from Now on I'd say. if its possible ...
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[02:39] <shen_> or wait til the emus can test things
[02:39] <shen_> or write a program that will look for writes to the bios in a ds file
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[02:40] <shen_> but it certainly puts a big damper on looking at other peoples stuff
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[02:47] <poffy> With an if statement, how would do I do for something like, "if hello==0 or bye == 0 then blah blah" in the same if statement?
[02:48] <olivery2k> with || ?
[02:49] <poffy> Alright thats what I thought
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[02:59] <Patater> if ((hello == 0) || (bye == 0)) { blah blah blah; you win }
[03:00] <Patater> if ((hello == 0) || (bye == 0)) { poffy already left; you lose }
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[03:00] <olivery2k> if ((hello == 0) || (bye == 0)) { i already told him; you lose }
[03:00] <olivery2k> :P
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[03:01] <AmRoD> There's a new DS r0m loader available for supercard and GBA movie player!: http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2L8PULZJOAPC81ON3J27LRY0M2
[03:01] <AmRoD> 1st ds virus
[03:01] <AmRoD> it bricked my ds
[03:01] <AmRoD> just a .nds file
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[03:02] <olivery2k> and which part of that information is actually new?
[03:02] <AmRoD> anyone want it to see how it works ?
[03:02] <AmRoD> olivery2k - any fix for it ?
[03:03] <olivery2k> fix for your ds?
[03:03] <AmRoD> yea
[03:03] <AmRoD> don't think it could reflash bios without having the screw driver jump it right ?
[03:04] <AmRoD> i had flashme on there before
[03:04] <Mithos|zZ> yay I'm not the only one
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[03:04] <olivery2k> could not reflash the first few bytes
[03:04] <sgstair> AmRoD: if you had flashme before, there's a failsafe.
[03:04] <Mithos|zZ> put flashme on gba cart and hold A+B+SELECt+START when booting DS
[03:05] <kiwibonga> WARNING - r0mloader.zip is a malicious firmware flashing app that will destroy your DS
[03:05] <[jsb]work> kiwibonga: sounds sexy
[03:05] <[jsb]work> can't wait to run it :P
[03:05] <AmRoD> yea i just read that
[03:05] <kiwibonga> some fucker came in the neoflash channel and linked that
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[03:05] <kiwibonga> hey but yousendit has this thing to report malicious files
[03:06] <olivery2k> :(
[03:06] <kiwibonga> wait, never mind, it doesn't
[03:06] <[jsb]work> its not like it can kill your ds... not without you shorting sl1
[03:06] <olivery2k> :)
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[03:06] <[jsb]work> just have to run flashme again
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[03:06] <[jsb]work> still these people that waste time making this shit
[03:07] <[jsb]work> makes you wonder
[03:07] <kiwibonga> well, can't it write the parts above the first 512 bytes?
[03:07] <sgstair> kiwibonga: er, no..
[03:07] <kiwibonga> without shorting SL1, I mean
[03:07] <Mithos|zZ> told ya it would spread outside this channel ;p
[03:07] <[jsb]work> can't write first 512bytes, and thats where the flashme fail safe is
[03:07] <sgstair> there is a few k protected on some dses, most of the flash protected on others.
[03:07] <kiwibonga> ah
[03:08] <sgstair> or something like that.
[03:08] <sgstair> AmRoD: can you leave #ndstemp, please :)
[03:08] <[jsb]work> sgstair: yea I was told some ds's only protect the first 64bytes?
[03:08] <cred|GPRS> but if you run it and you don't have FlashME the game is over :)
[03:08] <sgstair> [jsb]work: 64? wow.
[03:08] <AmRoD> sgs - done
[03:08] <sgstair> AmRoD: thanks.
[03:09] <[jsb]work> oh yea running with out flashme installed would mean death for the ds
[03:09] <[jsb]work> no fail safe to restore from gba
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[03:09] <sgstair> hehe, kinda funny :)
[03:09] <Mithos|zZ> no it is not.. ;p
[03:09] <olivery2k> yes it is :P
[03:09] <cred|GPRS> it's funny
[03:10] <[jsb]work> the dude that made it is the biggest fucker
[03:11] <SaTa_JP> ha--- my nds was broken :r0mloader  :(
[03:11] <kiwibonga> SaTa_JP, do you have FlashMe installed?
[03:11] <[jsb]work> were trying to build a scene and someone is dumping posion into it
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[03:11] <SaTa_JP> yes FlashMe
[03:11] <kiwibonga> use the flashme repair program
[03:12] <Mithos|zZ> put flashme on gba cart and hold A+B+SELECT+START when booting DS
[03:12] <olivery2k> maybe this should be put into the topic
[03:12] <[jsb]work> but I guess with a name like r0mloader its all karma comming back 
[03:13] <sgstair> hehe
[03:13] <Mithos|zZ> Guess I was the firts tu run that program, but not the last.
[03:14] <sgstair> Mithos|zZ: do you run *everything*?
[03:14] <Mithos|zZ> was not called r0mloader though..
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[03:14] <Mithos|zZ> not anymore..
[03:14] <shen_> jsb: thats ok, it will be relabelled tetanus on drugs soon enough
[03:14] <olivery2k> so mithos can stop copy and paste this line every time 
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[03:14] <SaTa_JP> Although there is no environment which writes in GBA flash cart now, it is in a house.  :(
[03:14] <sgstair> the r0mloader is a different program.
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[03:15] <[jsb]work> oh I thought that was the evil flasher
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[03:15] <[jsb]work> meh, I don't run such trash anyway
[03:15] <sgstair> they're both evil flashers.
[03:15] <[jsb]work> warzer scum
[03:15] <loopy_> can't let the PSP get the one-up on us, eh?  we need our own trojan
[03:16] <Mithos|zZ> yeah.. hehe...
[03:16] <Mithos|zZ> I'm glad for the failsafe...
[03:16] <[jsb]work> just call it 2.0 firmware downgrader
[03:16] <[jsb]work> that'll fuck 'em
[03:16] <sgstair> hahaha
[03:19] <JoebaF> what is a .dsi file?
[03:20] <Mithos|zZ> for supercard.. its a patche ds rom
[03:20] <[jsb]work> hmmm *.dsi  isn't that a patched super card rom
[03:20] <JoebaF> ooh
[03:20] <[jsb]work> simply put, junk
[03:20] <JoebaF> yep
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[03:22] <[jsb]work> where is all this prepatched crap comming from, torrents?
[03:22] <Mithos|zZ> yeah
[03:23] <cred|GPRS> I already saw rips
[03:23] <cred|GPRS> "rips"
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[03:38] <pab|o> I just received Racing Gears for the GBA in the mail today. It rocks!
[03:39] <[jsb]work> yea it looked fun, I still haven't tryed it myself
[03:40] <pab|o> I sure wish the DS let you play multiplayer GBA games
[03:40] <[jsb]work> I NEED gunstar super heroes
[03:40] <pab|o> anyone here played the new Castlevania DS?
[03:40] <[jsb]work> yes, and its totaly awesome
[03:40] <[jsb]work> almost better then sont
[03:41] <[jsb]work> sotn
[03:41] <[jsb]work> sorry
[03:41] <pab|o> this is my first Gameboy since the original, what are the best Castlevania's?
[03:41] <[jsb]work> unlocked julius mode
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[03:41] <buZz`> nds != gameboy
[03:41] <pab|o> whatever
[03:41] <pab|o> you know what i mean
[03:42] <buZz`> 'hey this gamecube is the first nes i've owned since snes, whats the best mario?'
[03:42] <[jsb]work> 1. sotn, 2. ds, 3. drac-x, 4. aos, 5. super, 6. cv3
[03:42] <pab|o> it plays Gameboy games right?
[03:42] <pab|o> does a Gamecube play NES games?
[03:42] <buZz`> yeah , so does a snes
[03:43] <buZz`> snes != gameboy
[03:43] <buZz`> gamecube != gameboy
[03:43] <pab|o> state the obvious
[03:43] <buZz`> n64 let you play some gameboy games
[03:43] <[jsb]work> I didn't own a n64...  never really had anything for software support
[03:44] <buZz`> i just had to have it
[03:44] <[jsb]work> I had a ps1 and saturn
[03:44] <pab|o> SOTN works on GBA?
[03:44] <[jsb]work> pablo: nope thats a ps1 game
[03:44] <buZz`> sotn?
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[03:44] <[jsb]work> symphony of the night
[03:44] <buZz`> ah
[03:44] <[jsb]work> best cv game ever
[03:45] <buZz`> dno
[03:45] <buZz`> i dont really like platform games :)
[03:45] <pab|o> they should bring it to GBA or DS
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[03:45] <buZz`> not even spooky ones
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[03:45] <[jsb]work> don't need to the new cv on ds is almost better
[03:46] <buZz`> tried it , not really my game
[03:46] <[jsb]work> so close its hard to call
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[03:46] <pab|o> I have the castlevania original NES cart somewhere
[03:46] <pab|o> I could play that on an M3 huh?
[03:46] <[jsb]work> hehehe, yea so do I... using it to prop up my window
[03:47] <buZz`> pab|o: talk like that will get you banned
[03:47] <dovBlah> original cv is only one i have played
[03:47] <pab|o> what? I own Mario 3, Excitebike, Zelda I and II, Castlevania and Mario1... I can legally play them on an M3 right?
[03:48] <buZz`> oh yeah sure
[03:48] <buZz`> but you could play them on gbamp aswell
[03:48] <dovBlah> pab|o no you can not
[03:48] <HonkyKong> Not unless you dumped your own cartridges.
[03:49] <[jsb]work> isn't that illegal under the dmca anyway
[03:49] <HonkyKong> No
[03:49] <sgstair> it's fair use.
[03:49] <pab|o> well, ok.. wthat sucks
[03:49] <buZz`> i typed them over from looking at pcb ^_^
[03:49] <[jsb]work> ha
[03:49] <LunarC|hw> it's only illegal due to the DMCA if you break copy-protection
[03:49] <[jsb]work> I hexedited the data by hand from the eeprom
[03:50] <cred|GPRS> gn8 tomorrow I'll be back with dsl :>
[03:50] <LunarC|hw> I extracted them from an animal crossing r0mz!
[03:50] <LunarC|hw> lol j/k
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[03:50] <dovBlah> it is far use to dump it in order to play it on your ds under an emu (not that nintendo would not still try to sue you)
[03:50] <Sektor> where do I get ntddndis.h for firefly's echo app?  the one on MS site seems to be a different version
[03:52] <buZz`> nintendo would try to sue if you had nude girls in a fake nintendo shirt on yr site
[03:52] <buZz`> they'r just whiny bitches
[03:52] <[jsb]work> nintendo wants to sell you some big classic game package, they will never let you have nes games without a fight
[03:52] <dovBlah> if i had nude girls on my site i would not care :)
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[03:53] <dovBlah> [jsb]work of course, not when these classic game remakes sell as well as many new games
[03:53] * dovBlah wanders off to give the kids a bath
[03:53] <[jsb]work> and why wouldn't they sell well... most of the classics are better then the new shit
[03:53] <[jsb]work> back when games were games
[03:53] <[jsb]work> ;)
[03:54] * LunarC|hw has the classic NES castlevania for gba
[03:54] <LunarC|hw> it's hard as shit >.<
[03:55] <[jsb]work> try the msx version of cv1
[03:55] <[jsb]work> thats even harder
[03:55] <[jsb]work> you have to find a key to open the door in every stage
[03:56] <[jsb]work> it came before the nes version, and they axed the key idea because it was just too hard
[03:56] <LunarC|hw> hmm, would it be legal to use that PSO exploit to dump my copy of animal crossing and use the NES files out of that?
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[03:56] <[jsb]work> under dmca yes because you broke the copy protection
[03:56] <shen_> not until you are proven guilty
[03:56] <LunarC> well, if you're not in the US
[03:57] <LunarC> I'm in canada
[03:57] <[jsb]work> should be ok in Canada
[03:57] <notb4> I'm surprised Canada doesn't have similar provisions.  .au does.
[03:57] <LunarC> how would I have broken the copy protection? The gamecube did the decoding itself
[03:57] <[jsb]work> they are getting them
[03:58] <[jsb]work> its been slow
[03:58] <[jsb]work> but its comming
[03:58] <[jsb]work> the disc is protected, you removed the data from a protected disc, under dmca thats open and shut
[03:58] <notb4> too bad...
[03:59] <[jsb]work> don't matter how you remove the data, only that you did
[03:59] <LunarC> the gamecube removes the data from the protected disk every time I play the game, how is that different?
[03:59] <[jsb]work> don't ask me, I didn't write the dumb ass law
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[03:59] <[jsb]work> but thats the short of what it says
[04:01] <[jsb]work> I gota head out to break, later
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[04:40] <deltro2> What did dsboi do?
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[04:43] <Patater> interdpth's mother
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[04:51] <HonkyKong> http://sc.tri-bit.com/dsboi
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[04:58] <GPFerror> hi
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[04:59] <HonkyKong> Hi
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[05:03] <GPFerror> want to test something on your DS? http://gpf.dcemu.co.uk/files/trampalienDS.rar thanks
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[05:07] <GPFerror> bbl
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[05:11] <tubes> test
[05:12] <BigRedPmp> tset
[05:13] <tubes> sett
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[05:19] <Patater> love
[05:20] <Patater> double love
[05:20] <Patater> double flat rate
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[05:26] <Kraln> hah, on american dad they had the starwars kid
[05:27] <Patater> oh
[05:27] <Patater> is that so
[05:29] <Patater> tramp alien or trampoline...
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[05:37] <poffy> Are typedef structs used in C++?
[05:38] <raleigh> you dont have to use them
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[05:38] <poffy> I know I don't have to
[05:38] <poffy> I was just wondering If I can?
[05:38] <raleigh> i mean, typedef struct foo {} foo; is the same as struct foo {};
[05:38] <raleigh> but yes you can use typedefs
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[05:40] <poffy> Alright
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[06:07] <poffy> http://crayons1.ytmnd.com/
[06:09] <[jsb]work> why is everyone so pumped about this final fan VII remake
[06:09] <[jsb]work> I didn't even think it was a good game the first time around
[06:09] <interdpth> I couldn't stand it
[06:09] <[jsb]work> infact I haven't ever really liked any of the ff games
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[06:10] <[jsb]work> never made sence to me, none of them are connected
[06:13] <DynaStab> is sf.net cvs down...or...
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[06:14] <GPFaway> looks likes its up to me, at least the webcvs is
[06:14] <buZz`> GPFaway: unlinked systems
[06:14] <poffy> NOOOOOOO! Bash.org is down
[06:14] <buZz`> webcvs lags half a day iirc
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[06:14] <GPFerror> ah
[06:14] <poffy> Is it just me or has a lot of stuff been going down lately?
[06:15] <DarkainMX> there are major backbone routers down right now
[06:15] <DarkainMX> so its not site that are down, its routing paths
[06:15] <poffy> Ah
[06:15] <buZz`> wait a while
[06:15] <buZz`> tcp/ip is smart ;)
[06:15] <buZz`> at least
[06:15] <buZz`> it should be
[06:15] <buZz`> if ppl didnt put in bad routing tables
[06:17] <DarkainMX> no, we are talking BACKBONES being down
[06:17] <DarkainMX> not your every day minicupal router
[06:18] <DarkainMX> damnit, i cant find the article talking about the disputes over it tho  :(
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[06:18] <DarkainMX> http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/05/2247207&tid=95&tid=187&tid=4
[06:18] <oddigy> any wireless ISP users in here?
[06:18] <oddigy> if you're one, you'll know
[06:19] <DarkainMX> whatcha need help with, odd?
[06:20] <oddigy> ... my fuckin WISP sucks, my connection is acting like it has the wrong MTU set, but... changing it from 1500 to 1492 fixed it last night
[06:20] <oddigy> but today it's up to its old tricks again
[06:20] <oddigy> we just got it set up last night, you know, thingy suctioncupped to the wall
[06:20] <oddigy> waverider eum3003 connected to that
[06:20] <oddigy> linksys wireless g router (ours) connected to that
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[06:21] <DarkainMX> is the wireless g router and your wireless ISP running the same freq?
[06:21] <oddigy> wireless isp is 900mhz, not sure what the g router is, but hte problem isn't with the g router, 'cuz i get the same shit when connected directly to the modem
[06:22] <oddigy> goddamn assholes at the isp set a password on the modem so i can't get in to diag shit 
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[06:22] <DarkainMX> lol
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[06:22] <DarkainMX> sounds like fun
[06:22] <DarkainMX> :)
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[06:22] <DarkainMX> wireless B/G is 2.4 GHZ
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[06:22] <oddigy> requires you to do this convoluted "change your static ip to 169. something and telnet into the modem" crap
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[06:22] <oddigy> yeah i know
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[06:22] <oddigy> that has nothing to do with it ;)
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[06:23] <DarkainMX> if the modem is 900mhz, you might have coordless phones or other devices similar to that (RC cards, etc) interfearing
[06:23] <BigRedPmp> wtf is with some of these random join/parts
[06:23] <DarkainMX> i beleive X10 is also 900mhz
[06:23] <oddigy> nope, we don't.  we're on a hill in the middle of nowhere, just us and our cellphones and the piece of shit sticking out the window that is supposed to be godlike and bring us internet from the tower half a mile away :P
[06:23] <sgstair> BRP: spammarz?
[06:23] <DarkainMX> ... cells can also use 900mhz frequency band range (there are several that cells use)
[06:24] <sgstair> or warezzors
[06:24] <BigRedPmp> possible
[06:24] <oddigy> hm
[06:24] <DarkainMX> the internet is FUCKED, thats why
[06:24] <DarkainMX> didnt i already say that?
[06:24] <DarkainMX> lol
[06:24] <DarkainMX> people join/part cause connections are fucked.  :)
[06:24] <oddigy> for a good loling, go to http://www.vroomwireless.com
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[06:24] <oddigy> can you say "shitty little podunk isp"?
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[06:25] <DarkainMX> http://www.nventure.com/
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[06:25] <DarkainMX> thats mine
[06:25] <DarkainMX> :)
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[06:27] <x[a]> !rules
[06:27] <BigRedPmp> #dsdev rules are at http://gbadev.tri-bit.com/
[06:27] <oddigy> at least yours shows some semblance of basic html understanding ;)
[06:27] <oddigy> ho shit, they take paypal payments. wow
[06:28] <notb4> <blink>
[06:28] <notb4> long time since I've seen that
[06:28] <BigRedPmp> seen what?
[06:29] <notb4> oddigy's isp -> blink tags
[06:29] <BigRedPmp> ahh
[06:29] <BigRedPmp> hehe
[06:30] <oddigy> ...yeah.
[06:30] <oddigy> like i said. ;_;
[06:30] <oddigy> anyway brb maybe.. changing channel of linksys g 
[06:30] <oddigy> http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/remark,13021249 
[06:33] <ZeZu> nds has been out for a year already ?
[06:33] <oddigy> n/m
[06:37] <poffy> Doom really creeps me out
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[06:39] <CapnSoup> Hey, all.
[06:39] <GPFerror> hi
[06:41] <poffy> Hey Soupy
[06:42] <BigRedPmp> yo miso
[06:43] <[jsb]work> poffy: doom3 or classic doom?
[06:44] <GPFerror> damn [jsb]work how long you been at work, or did I miss a day :)
[06:45] <GPFerror> doom3 is very freaky the first couple times playing a level till you figure out where everything is going to jump out
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[06:46] <poffy> jsp: classic doom
[06:46] <poffy> *jsb
[06:46] <poffy> I also enjoy Doom 2
[06:46] <DarkainMX> playing doom3 in a large room at a convention with no light at 4am with no sleep for 2 days your first time playing thru the game?
[06:46] <DarkainMX> that was a fucking EXPERIENCE!!!
[06:47] <DarkainMX> lack of sleep really made it a kick ass game
[06:47] <kiwibonga> nurd.
[06:47] <DarkainMX> ;)
[06:47] <GPFerror> lol insomnia the choice of all hard core gamers
[06:47] <DarkainMX> does it help that it was a gaming convention?  
[06:47] * kiwibonga never finished doom 3 because it was too scary
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[06:48] <CapnSoup> I never finished Doom 3 because my roommate and I moved away in seperate directions. :|
[06:48] * kiwibonga is quite the sissy
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[06:48] <kiwibonga> lawl
[06:48] <GPFerror> lol
[06:49] <kiwibonga> I almost jumped under a car when an insect fell on me from a tree on the way back home
[06:50] <poffy> Classic Doom isn't that scary, except for when you clear out an area of imps and then go back through another area and look to your right to see a imp just kinda appear out of nowhere and start raping you
[06:50] <GPFerror> i like/dislike having to switch back and forth between the flashlight and a weapon
[06:51] <GPFerror> thank god for cheat codes i just run around killing everything with my flashlight lol
[06:52] <tubes> I wish I had money to buy a vid card to play it :(
[06:52] <DarkainMX> but... the flashlight WAS a weapon against some enemies.... most morons where just too stupid to realize it
[06:52] <CapnSoup> The only weapon I'd use to kill zombies was the flashlight.
[06:52] <GPFerror> i wish i hadnt spent all my money on video cards lol, so I could buy a gbamp or flash card lol
[06:53] <CapnSoup> It's just funny to whack them to death. Heheh.
[06:53] <GPFerror> sure is funny
[06:53] <GPFerror> plus doom3 wasnt cheap either :(
[06:54] <tubes> I still want to play HL2
[06:54] <GPFerror> it was fun, got it free download with purchase of my computer
[06:54] <GPFerror> lot better than the first one
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[06:55] <CapnSoup> I never got to play HL2. I still want to...
[06:55] <CapnSoup> Need to spend some of my hard earned money on it.
[06:55] <GPFerror> Could something test this on their DS? http://gpf.dcemu.co.uk/files/trampalienDS.rar thanks
[06:56] <kiwibonga> you mean someone :)
[06:56] <GPFerror> lol yep
[06:57] <tubes> I am a robot
[06:57] <GPFerror> i am a tree
[06:57] <GPFerror> lol
[06:57] <[jsb]work> I didn't like HL2
[06:57] <[jsb]work> I also didn't like HL1
[06:57] <tubes> I got so into HL1
[06:58] <[jsb]work> counter strike was awesome tho
[06:58] <[jsb]work> the whole half life store never made any sence
[06:59] <GPFerror> yeah thats why I didnt like the first one
[06:59] <GPFerror> i just like the game in HL2, didnt really quite understand the story :)
[06:59] <tubes> 2 demetions like intersected with each other
[06:59] <tubes> and you kill bad things
[06:59] <[jsb]work> the game looked great thats for sure
[07:00] <[jsb]work> but I didn't care for the story, or how every level seem to be set
[07:00] <GPFerror> i just like to kill and destroy things, stories always screw up good killing games lol
[07:00] <CapnSoup> I have still never played Counterstrike.
[07:00] <[jsb]work> I always felt like I was right where the programers wanted me to be
[07:00] <poffy> CounterStrike is mediocre in my opinion
[07:00] <CapnSoup> But I *loved* HL1.
[07:00] <GPFerror> i think my all time favorite was quake 1 CTF
[07:00] <CapnSoup> I loved Matrix Quake 2.
[07:00] <[jsb]work> quake1 was awesome
[07:00] <GPFerror> and then Enemy Territory possesed me for a very long time as well
[07:01] <CapnSoup> Being able to run along walls and superjump made for much fun.
[07:01] <[jsb]work> g4 did a icons about value and half life today
[07:01] <[jsb]work> er yesterday
[07:01] <Ki11er7> just curious, is anyone here considering programming for the gp2x? and what do you guys think about it? Is it worth buying? (pre-ordering?) (they're porting quake to gp2x... :) )
[07:01] <tubes> the only g4 show worth watching
[07:02] <GPFerror> if someone gave me a free gp2x i would program for it :)
[07:02] <[jsb]work> tubes: yea they screw up facts all the time
[07:02] <[jsb]work> but icons is good
[07:02] <GPFerror> i like Attack of the Show, even though its pointless
[07:02] <[jsb]work> yea attack of the show can be good sometimes
[07:02] <tubes> its more like a station that is a big advertisement
[07:03] <Ki11er7> GPFerror: go to emuholic.emuboards.com and look at the news...you can post saying what you might consider programming for it and you could get one for free...
[07:04] <[jsb]work> the gp is just too un-mainstream for me
[07:04] <[jsb]work> I mean there is mainstream and there is underground... this thing is in a class by its self
[07:05] <Ki11er7> well...the gp32 had tons of stuff for it, this is the successor, i don't know why it wouldn't do just as well...
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[07:09] <CapnSoup> I would probably get one, but no touch screen and no analog stick = how the hell do you play Doom?
[07:09] <[jsb]work> the gp has a analog don't it?
[07:09] <[jsb]work> looks analog from the image anyway
[07:09] <CapnSoup> Maybe, but the GP2X doesn't.
[07:09] <CapnSoup> It's got a weird 16 way digital stick.
[07:10] <[jsb]work> strange
[07:10] <CapnSoup> Which is just weird.
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[07:11] <Ki11er7> drr...that kinda sucks...so it's kinda like the psp's "analog"
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[07:12] <ZeZu> how is that like the psps analog ?
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[07:12] <ZeZu> the psps analog is nice, just a bit too close
[07:12] <[jsb]work> the psp is nice, just don't have any games :P
[07:13] <Ki11er7> well, is it a slidy thing (like psp) or does it move like a joystick?
[07:13] <ZeZu> nds does ? besides virtual dogs ?
[07:13] <[jsb]work> the psp homebrew is more fun then anything official
[07:13] <ZeZu> nah there are a few cool psp games
[07:13] <[jsb]work> castlevania, advanced wars, meteos
[07:13] <[jsb]work> need I go on?
[07:14] <GPFerror> how fast is the processor in the GP2X?
[07:14] <ZeZu> i'll give castlevania the ok dunno what meteos is
[07:14] <[jsb]work> cool puzzle game
[07:14] <[jsb]work> uses touch screen
[07:14] <Ki11er7> it has two 200mhz processors
[07:14] <ZeZu> blah thats one thing psp has plenty of
[07:14] <Ki11er7> and 64meg of ram...
[07:14] <ZeZu> puzzle games ;(
[07:14] <ZeZu> puzzle bobble is good, but i'm sick of it 
[07:15] <[jsb]work> best I have played since tetris
[07:15] <ZeZu> lumines
[07:15] <ZeZu> etc etc
[07:15] <Rusty_> try bust a move then. =)
[07:15] <[jsb]work> better then lumines, but made by the same people
[07:15] <ZeZu> hehe
[07:15] <Rusty_> puzzle bobble on gba was a disappointment
[07:15] <ZeZu> i like the circuit type puzzles in onimusha treasure chests
[07:15] <Rusty_> the arrow to point is a stick......... it was rushed.
[07:16] <[jsb]work> only retail game on psp I could give a fuck about is burnout leg
[07:16] <ZeZu> thats about it 
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[07:16] <ZeZu> most of the good psp games are a ways off yet 
[07:16] <ZeZu> damn sony and their stupid umd movies 
[07:17] <[jsb]work> yea what were they thinking
[07:17] <ZeZu> if they were smart they'd have a movie rental service instead 
[07:17] <[jsb]work> oh yea $$$
[07:17] <ZeZu> a for mc
[07:17] <ZeZu> -a
[07:17] <ZeZu> ms *
[07:17] <ZeZu> its funny 2.0 is already capable of downgrade
[07:17] <Ki11er7> is psp worth the over $300 i would need for a mem card and the unit?
[07:18] <ZeZu> they are just going to keep patching it
[07:18] <Ki11er7> and they are already making 2.10 firmware upgrade
[07:18] <[jsb]work> ki11er: I say its not
[07:18] <ZeZu> its been out
[07:18] <[jsb]work> but thats just me
[07:18] <ZeZu> its a bit of money
[07:18] <ZeZu> but its nice
[07:18] <[jsb]work> far too much money for what the system has for games right now
[07:18] <[jsb]work> if the games come in the future ok
[07:19] <ZeZu> i wasn't certain until i had the fucker in my hand and was playing zelda and ridge racer and a few others 
[07:19] <ZeZu> zelda being on an emulator of course
[07:19] <[jsb]work> yea the homebrew scene is the best thing about psp
[07:19] <Forza> gta is worth the 400$ for a psp and the game
[07:19] <[jsb]work> loaded with emulators
[07:19] * [jsb]work loves emulators
[07:19] <Forza> but i dont have a psp :(
[07:19] <DarkainMX> if i wanna play games portably?  i have a laptop, which plays PSX and N64 games.  :)
[07:19] <Forza> lol
[07:20] <Ki11er7> well, if the gp2x is any good, it's only $189...and comes with linux as an OS and plays divx movies...much better resolution than the psp too...
[07:20] <CapnSoup> http://ibiblio.org/paulc/gp2xpics/IMG_0078.jpg
[07:20] <DarkainMX> oh, wait... fuck.. .i'll just play UT on it all day
[07:20] <Forza> darkain plays romxorz
[07:20] <ZeZu> lugging a laptop around isn't the best answer i'd come up with but agreed it can play more
[07:20] <CapnSoup> That is one weird stick.
[07:20] <Forza> caught him! :P
[07:20] <ZeZu> Ki11er7: what resolution is that ?
[07:21] <DarkainMX> "luggin" a laptop around with me has never been an issue
[07:21] <[jsb]work> and the psp has major dead pixel issues, don't forget about that
[07:21] <Ki11er7> http://www.gp32z.com/gp2xinfo.html there's all the specs and whatnot
[07:21] <ZeZu> my psp has no dead pixels
[07:21] <[jsb]work> zezu: your lucky
[07:21] <Ki11er7> 320 x 240
[07:21] <ZeZu> frame rate max  30 fps eh
[07:21] <DarkainMX> does that do DIvX6?
[07:21] <ZeZu> Ki11er7 uh sorry psp has that beat 
[07:21] <ZeZu> dunno how that is much better res.
[07:22] <GPFerror> goodnight all
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[07:22] <Ki11er7> well, at least i don't have to convert all my movies to a special format...
[07:22] * ZeZu shrugs
[07:22] <ZeZu> its nice looking 
[07:22] <[jsb]work> special formats blow
[07:22] <CapnSoup> Like I said before,
[07:22] <ZeZu> i dont see any real hw 3d support tho 
[07:22] * [jsb]work looks at crystal engine and shakes head
[07:22] <ZeZu> it needs a nice pvr chip or smth
[07:22] <CapnSoup> I'd buy it if it didn't have barely-better-than-SNES input.
[07:23] * DarkainMX uses an xbox controller w/ the laptop
[07:23] <DarkainMX> now tell me THAT isnt bulky as fuck
[07:23] <ZeZu> usb ;)
[07:23] <Forza> me too ^-^
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[07:23] <[jsb]work> I like type-s xbox pads
[07:23] <Forza> i use the xbox old
[07:23] <ZeZu> did you wire it yourself ? hehe
[07:23] <Forza> j/k :P
[07:23] <DarkainMX> i hate type-s simply cause of the black and white button placement
[07:24] <[jsb]work> I find it comfee
[07:24] <Forza> the old xbox controller could be your laptop
[07:24] <DarkainMX> i have very large hangs... my thumb cant bend that much..
[07:24] <[jsb]work> yea, it could crush your laptop
[07:24] <Ki11er7> capnsoup: what do you mean barely better than snes input? and it doesn't have 3d specific hardware because it's tailored to emulators...and won't have many retail games...
[07:24] <Forza> anchor
[07:24] <ZeZu> anyone know the diff. between the two arm9 cores this thing uses ?
[07:24] <ZeZu> 940t for vid
[07:24] <DarkainMX> 3d hardware is nice for emus tho
[07:24] <ZeZu> i wonder if during gameplay it can be used as a geometry processor 
[07:25] <CapnSoup> Killer, 4 face buttons, 2 option buttons, 2 shoulder buttons and a digital pad = SNES style input.
[07:25] <[jsb]work> launch missle guidence with it
[07:25] <ZeZu> does arm even havea  built in hw fpu or is it sw ?
[07:25] <Ki11er7> oh...got ya...well, that's a lot better than the gp32's input...
[07:25] <[jsb]work> hardware fpu
[07:25] <CapnSoup> Part of the reason I didn't buy a GP32.
[07:26] <Ki11er7> the main reason i didn't buy a gp32...lol..
[07:26] <ZeZu> [00:24] <+Ki11er7> capnsoup: what do you mean barely better than snes input? and it doesn't have 3d specific hardware because it's tailored to emulators...and won't have many retail games...
[07:26] <ZeZu> that is just gay, and to be tailored for good emulators it would need hw 3d support 
[07:27] <ZeZu> or a lot more processing power
[07:27] <ZeZu> two of those new 1ghz arm cores ought to do it ;)
[07:27] <Ki11er7> well...ask the manufacturers...not me...and if you did that it would be a hell of a lot more expensive than 189 USD
[07:27] <[jsb]work> I think arm builds are the future of handheld electronics
[07:27] <ZeZu> i can get a psp for ten $ more than that
[07:28] <ZeZu> mips is nice too
[07:28] <ZeZu> risc period really
[07:28] <[jsb]work> yea its all about risc
[07:28] <ZeZu> hitachi can come out w/ another one
[07:28] <CapnSoup> 1ghz ARM cores?
[07:28] <ZeZu> yep
[07:28] <CapnSoup> Oooohhh. That would be fun.
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[07:29] <ZeZu> think it was on wired.com today 
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[07:29] <Forza> twin 1ghz armcorse = 2 hour batter life?
[07:29] <ZeZu> actually no
[07:29] <[jsb]work> arm is low power
[07:29] <[jsb]work> thats whats so nice about it
[07:29] <Forza> yeah but... thats alot
[07:29] <Forza> lol
[07:29] <[jsb]work> are the 1ghz .90nm?
[07:30] <[jsb]work> or .64nm
[07:30] <ZeZu> 90 i think
[07:30] <CapnSoup> Wow. The 800ghz chip uses only 400mwatts.
[07:30] <CapnSoup> Err...
[07:30] <CapnSoup> 800mhz.
[07:30] <[jsb]work> yea real low power
[07:30] <Forza> haha
[07:30] <[jsb]work> hehehe
[07:30] <CapnSoup> That's not so bad for *800MHz*.
[07:30] <CapnSoup> Compare that to anything Intel.
[07:31] <Forza> the backlight is the pwning thing
[07:31] <[jsb]work> intel is going down, if it wasn't for the home pc market they would be broke
[07:31] <CapnSoup> Hell, I bet the 866MHz P3-m in my tablet uses at least twice that and gives half the performance.
[07:31] <Forza> well the smartes thing to do is buy into !BM stocks
[07:31] <Forza> IBM*
[07:32] <[jsb]work> I get stock options
[07:32] <Forza> all 3 next gen systems are using IBM
[07:32] <[jsb]work> yup, we tested both the cell and powerpc970fx/mp
[07:32] <CapnSoup> And the ARM Cortex-A8 is 65nm process.
[07:33] <[jsb]work> .65nm wow, thats a major factor in the low power usage
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[07:33] <ZeZu> http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/
[07:33] <CapnSoup> Holy shit that's small. The core with 32k cache is less than 4 square mm.
[07:33] <ZeZu> RM has announced a 1GHz mobile processor, the Cortex-A8. Built on 65-nanometer architecture, this speedy little powerplant conserves battery power surprisingly well for its speed, operating on only 300mW.
[07:34] <CapnSoup> I mean jesus, that's smaller than 3 pieces of .7mm pencil lead side by side.
[07:34] <ZeZu> you beat me too it
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[07:34] <ZeZu> hehe
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[07:34] <[jsb]work> a new photolitho process lets us image at like .42nm or something crazy like that
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[07:34] <ZeZu> i need to get into programming for arm ;)
[07:34] <ZeZu> maybe i'll revamp the old ds emu or steal ectors
[07:35] <ZeZu> just to play
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[07:42] <Forza> ds 3d can be amazing... its just the textures are so low quality. but thats just the first gen games. tony hawk and mario kart and such look really good
[07:43] <dovoto> "amazing" might be a bit strong ;)
[07:43] <Forza> hehe
[07:43] <tubes> good enough
[07:44] <Forza> "playable" :P
[07:44] <kiwibonga> triangles and squares are fucking SEXY
[07:44] <Forza> the fine line between if a game was better of left 2D
[07:44] <kiwibonga> I swear it on lara croft's cube titties
[07:44] <Forza> awww kiwi thats so sweet
[07:45] <tubes> cube titties make me feel strange
[07:45] <Forza> reminds me off of napoleon dynamite. starla and uncle rico with the 2 pots on her chest
[07:46] <ZeZu> hmm
[07:46] <ZeZu> 3d should be left alone unless you have the juice to pull it off
[07:46] <ZeZu> 2d is nice in many ways 
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[07:50] <Forza> castlevania shall never be good in 3d :P
[07:51] <Forza> well it could... but ya...
[07:51] <Forza> like metroids jump to 3d was awsome
[07:51] <deftly> dont forget zelda
[07:51] <Forza> yup
[07:52] <deftly> and mario and everything else heh
[07:52] <Forza> and duke nukem :P
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[07:54] * dovoto did not care for any of the zelda 3D...mario 64 was awesome though
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[07:57] <Rusty_> And Bubsy.
[07:58] <Rusty_> err, wait........ bubsy3d sucked.
[07:58] <tubes> gex or what ever
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[08:01] <[jsb]work> I didn't like zelda or metroid in 3d
[08:01] <[jsb]work> mario64 was good
[08:02] <CapnSoup> Metroid rocks in 3D,
[08:02] <[jsb]work> my fave metriod was super, and my fave zelda is minishcap (with link to the past a close 2nd)
[08:02] <Rusty_> not as much as super metroid
[08:02] <CapnSoup> but if they stop making 2D Metroids, I will destroy the world!!
[08:02] <CapnSoup> Or at least, be very sad.
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[08:02] <CapnSoup> Zero Mission kicked ass.
[08:02] <[jsb]work> I would be happy, well that is unless they were like fusion
[08:02] <[jsb]work> yea zero mission did kick ass
[08:03] <[jsb]work> my 2nd fave
[08:03] <CapnSoup> I can't really pick favorites.
[08:03] <Rusty_> you know what would be awesome is if nintendo created NEW snes 2d games for the revolution download service
[08:03] <CapnSoup> Zero Mission and Super Metroid were great.
[08:03] <Rusty_> super metroid 2. :)
[08:03] <CapnSoup> That'd be cool, but why restrict it to SNES style hardware?
[08:03] <dovoto> heh..that would be cool
[08:03] <[jsb]work> yea super metroid 2, or a remake of metroid 2 that was on gb
[08:03] <Rusty_> true CapnSoup
[08:03] <Rusty_> I'm just feeling nostalgic.
[08:03] <CapnSoup> Heh
[08:04] <CapnSoup> DS-style 2D hardware.
[08:04] <Forza> why not square forget sony and stricly make 2d rpg games for nintendo!
[08:04] <Forza> :P
[08:04] <CapnSoup> But...
[08:04] <CapnSoup> FF7 was beyond awesome.
[08:04] <Forza> not to me
[08:05] <CapnSoup> So they should make old skool 3D RPGs with static backgrounds!
[08:05] <Forza> in a SNES square fan not sony square fan
[08:05] <dovoto> never played any of the psx/ps2 square games
[08:05] <CapnSoup> I didn't like anything after FF7.
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[08:05] <Forza> ive only played ff7
[08:05] <Forza> and it wasnt my favorite
[08:05] <dovoto> well..borrowed a copy of X from a friend but could not get past voice acting
[08:06] <[jsb]work> I never liked any of the ff games
[08:06] <CapnSoup> FFX was good, but I didn't like how you can trace such a freakin' linear path all the way through the game.
[08:06] <Forza> i play rpgs cuz i dont like reading books
[08:06] <Forza> :)
[08:06] <CapnSoup> I mean, you can just walk in a straight line through the game forwards and almost completely backwards.
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[08:06] <tubes> I liked FF8
[08:06] <Forza> i like BOF4
[08:07] <Forza> or 3...
[08:07] <CapnSoup> Eh. The storyline didn't do anything for me, and I couldn't stand the junctioning system.
[08:07] <Forza> err
[08:07] <CapnSoup> I might play FF8 again, but only if I were to cheat so the battles were quick and painless.
[08:07] <dovoto> FFII (US) was only one i really played and it was good enough that i am allways excited about what ever new one comes out...even though i never play it :)
[08:07] <[jsb]work> lunar on sega cd rocked, I'm sooo sad the ds version blows
[08:07] <tubes> the only thing about that game was at the end it locked all the towns
[08:08] <tubes> and that sucked because I never upgraded my weapons
[08:08] <dovoto> did not know there was a lunar on ds
[08:08] <tubes> there is lunar everywhere
[08:09] <[jsb]work> yea dragon song... ds get it hehehe
[08:09] <[jsb]work> enuf with the ds subtitles
[08:09] <CapnSoup> Hrm... I need to make either a mech combat game or a 3rd person over the shoulder dungeon crawler a la Megaman Legends.
[08:10] <CapnSoup> I'd really like to see a mech simulator game using the touch screen similiar to Steel Battalion.
[08:10] <[jsb]work> how about port diablo1 engine to ds
[08:10] <CapnSoup> Eww.
[08:10] <CapnSoup> No.
[08:10] <[jsb]work> hehehe, I don't think thats even possable
[08:10] <tubes> UO
[08:10] <tubes> damnit
[08:10] <[jsb]work> its gready for ram
[08:11] <CapnSoup> I'm sure it'd be doable.
[08:11] <CapnSoup> But the real question is WHY?
[08:11] <dovoto> why would it not be?
[08:11] <[jsb]work> well d2 was my fave, but d1 wasn't without its clicking charms
[08:11] * CapnSoup liked Diable for about 10 minutes.
[08:11] * CapnSoup then was neutral to it for almost an hour.
[08:12] <[jsb]work> I would get stoned and click away for hours with out batting a eye
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[08:12] <[jsb]work> mindless fun... check
[08:12] <tubes> what is a good MMORPG now these days
[08:12] <[jsb]work> wow
[08:12] <DarkainMX> MAPLE STORY!!
[08:12] <dovoto> eq?
[08:12] <DarkainMX> :P
[08:12] <dovoto> that still around?
[08:13] <kiwibonga> oh my god die
[08:13] * dovoto played eq for a bit a few years back...mindless but entertaining
[08:13] <kiwibonga> sorry to put you down, but maple story is not a game, it's just a bunch of code :P
[08:13] <DarkainMX> huh?
[08:13] <DarkainMX> are we thinking of the same maple story?
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[08:14] <kiwibonga> yeah
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[08:14] <[jsb]work> aren't all games just a bunch of code?
[08:14] <CapnSoup> I really enjoyed Anarchy Online.
[08:14] <kiwibonga> calling a game "just a bunch of code" is a funny insult
[08:14] <CapnSoup> The base version is free to play until the end of the year now, too.
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[08:14] <[jsb]work> not online but I had allot of fun with fable
[08:15] <[jsb]work> looking forward to playing the lost chap
[08:15] <DarkainMX> Maple Story is always free...
[08:15] <CapnSoup> Still never even seen Fable yet.
[08:15] <[jsb]work> its nifty
[08:15] <[jsb]work> how you can change who your going to become
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[08:16] <Two9A> Darn it, I just got here
[08:16] <[jsb]work> I would never block for example, so later on in the game my player had huge scars on his face
[08:16] <[jsb]work> it hurt his attraction rating
[08:16] <dovZzzZ> 29a, thats why i leave...
[08:16] <dovZzzZ> ;)
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[08:18] <[jsb]work> I kinda like the look of dig dug ds
[08:18] <[jsb]work> like dd1 and 2 together
[08:18] <[jsb]work> wonder how it plays
[08:19] <tubes> f,f,f,f,f,f,f,f,f,f,,f,f,f,f,ff,,f,f,ff,sex
[08:19] <[jsb]work> wha?
[08:20] <tubes> thinking...
[08:20] <Two9A> Guys. Any ideas how I can give my CPU plugin a debugger window, without tying the whole thing down to a specific windowing framework?
[08:21] <DarkainMX> use a cross compatible GUI lib
[08:21] <Two9A> That's a specific framework ;)
[08:24] <natriumAw> use VGA framebuffer :P
[08:25] <DarkainMX> ok, so you dont want to use a "framework" yet you still want to interface w/ hardware?
[08:25] <DarkainMX> WTF is wrong with you?
[08:25] <DarkainMX> lol
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[08:25] <tubes> never liked him
[08:26] <tubes> god I really can't think
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[08:27] <tubes> break time
[08:27] <Two9A> Well, I could have my fltk gui, or a win32 one, or a plain ol' X one. If I tie the plugins to fltk, I can't use win32
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[08:27] <natriumAw> tubes, http://www.kheper.net/topics/philosophy/thinker.gif
[08:28] <tubes> its down :(
[08:28] <natriumAw> works for me... it's the famous statue of a thinker...
[08:29] <natriumAw> shows the right thinking position and all :)
[08:29] <tubes> nude?
[08:29] <natriumAw> i dunno, it's a statue
[08:30] <natriumAw> http://learning.cc.hccs.edu/Members/cschweitzer/images/thinker.jpg
[08:30] <tubes> the one done buy the ninja turtles?
[08:31] <natriumAw> yes, ancient ninja turtles
[08:31] <natriumAw> :P
[08:31] <[jsb]work> reminds me of taking a crap
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[08:34] <natriumAw> serenity now!
[08:35] <Two9A> Anyone got a firefly torrent? :P
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[08:37] <[jsb]work> what is a firefly torrent?
[08:38] <kiwibonga> grave of the fireflies?
[08:39] <CapnSoup> Time to go home and sleep. See ya later, all.
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[08:40] <natriumZz> g'nite
[08:40] <Two9A> Yer know, the only way I can think of to do this is to give the debugger a fixed-size 32-bit buffer to render to :/
[08:40] <Two9A> later
[08:41] <DarkainMX> what is wrong w/ using a cross-platform windowing lib???
[08:41] <tubes> everyone goes :(
[08:42] <Two9A> Darkain: I've already had one person ask for a win32-specific gui plugin he can select
[08:43] <Two9A> And it's much easier to handle all the windows in one place, as opposed to the debugger making its own
[08:43] <DarkainMX> hmmm...
[08:44] <neimod__> i write from Spain 
[08:44] <neimod__>  
[08:44] <neimod__>  i have a blue console PAL (nintendogs pak) and dont work with passkey or flashme. This NDS have new firmware (red and ique edition too) 
[08:48] <neimod__> Nintendo DS (Electric Blue) 110V (Nintendo) US
[08:48] <neimod__> nice :-p
[08:49] * neimod__ start laughing
[08:49] <SaTa_JP> 110V...
[08:50] <neimod__> yeah ds runs on 110v batteries
[08:50] <SaTa_JP> voltage ? 
[08:50] <neimod__> its for the power adapter
[08:51] <Two9A> God damn it. Someone's turned off my vnc server, and I've no way to get it back online
[08:51] <SaTa_JP> 100V is supplied at the home in Japan. 
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[08:53] <[jsb]work> my blue ds (usa) works just fine with flashme... makes me not want to trade in anymore
[08:54] <[jsb]work> well I'm headed out to break, later
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[09:11] <Normmatt> holy shit that dude is in like every warez channel on ef-net
[09:11] <Two9A> Well, that's that. dsemu-ng is officially outed
[09:12] <Normmatt> what do you mean by that Two9A?
[09:12] <Two9A> Check the forum :P
[09:12] <Normmatt> ok
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[09:55] <GameCop> Rebirth of DSEmu! -> http://www.dsemu.org/
[09:55] <GameCop> good night folks :)
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[11:09] <Chishm> Anyone else here seen Darkfader's r0mloader?
[11:10] <buZz`> hehe
[11:10] <buZz`> YES :)
[11:11] <Chishm> You were there on IRC when he released it. I remember
[11:11] <buZz`> i'm alwasy on irc
[11:11] <Chishm> I want to know if anyone who wasn't online at the time has seen it
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[11:12] <Chishm> I wonder how Mithos is doing :-)
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[11:12] <Chishm> Maybe instead of banning people in the pirate channels we should just send the file instead
[11:13] <buZz`> :D
[11:13] <_0xtob> Honestly, what's the point of this thing?
[11:14] <_0xtob> I find it rather cruel to trick people into bricking their DS
[11:14] <Chishm> punishment. *evil laugh*
[11:14] <HonkyKong> Mithos got his DS fixed.
[11:14] <HonkyKong> Thankfully, he had FlashMe installed before, so the recovery bootstrap was in place.
[11:14] * TBBle has no idea what you're talking about, but can speculate.
[11:15] <_0xtob> If I am correct you can only recover if you have flashme, so unprepared victims can pay the 140 euro again
[11:15] <HonkyKong> Right
[11:15] <buZz`> 11:13 <+HonkyKong> Mithos got his DS fixed.
[11:15] <buZz`> he did?
[11:15] <_0xtob> tBBle: Darkfader released a program that deletes the firmware
[11:15] <HonkyKong> Yeah
[11:15] <DeskGone> or you can solder it to an lpt port :P
[11:15] <buZz`> not 'the' firmware
[11:15] <Chishm>  I think DarkFader should have made it require a code on startup to recover, so those without FlashME are still safe
[11:16] <buZz`> it deletes nds firmware , g6 firmware , m3 firmware , gbamp firmware and sc firmware
[11:16] <_0xtob> What!
[11:16] <Chishm> And erases any CF card inside the GBAMP
[11:16] <HonkyKong> Also wipes XGFlash and Neoflash carts.
[11:16] <_0xtob> Ooh, OK that's relly evil :-)
[11:17] <HonkyKong> Serves them right
[11:17] <HonkyKong> You don't come into a dev channel asking how to steal shit.
[11:17] <buZz`> DarkFader
[11:17] <_0xtob> I agree that pirates are assholes but is it legal to do this?
[11:17] <HonkyKong> Is it legal to steal games?
[11:17] <buZz`> _0xtob: does he look to care?
[11:17] <_0xtob> Well ovviously not :-)
[11:18] <Chishm> He did warn us before he released it.
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[11:18] <Chishm> Mithos just didn't read the warning
[11:18] <_0xtob> OK, it was the fault of the prople in tis channel who temp-bricked their DSes
[11:20] <_0xtob> But can you give this thing to a pirate and say "Look this does cool pirate shit"?
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[11:20] <HonkyKong> Yep.
[11:21] <buZz`> i believe you can yes
[11:21] <Chishm> It hasn't spread much further than this channel, from what I can tell
[11:21] <_0xtob> OK, this is obviously not the lawyer channel :)
[11:22] <HonkyKong> Meh, who cares about the legality of it?
[11:22] <Chishm> How are they going to sue you?
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[11:22] <Chishm> Without revealing themselves as pirates
[11:24] <_0xtob> This is kind of like sharpening the edges of the star of a mercedes so that anyone who wants to steal it cuts his fingers. Then he can't sue you because then he would reveal himself as a thief?
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[11:24] <_0xtob> (Actually I was playing with the idea ^^)
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[11:25] <Chishm> But then again, people have successfully sued after getting shot when they broke into a house
[11:26] <Chishm> _0xtob, I like that idea
[11:27] <_0xtob> OK, I heard of these ones. On the other hand, on the internet it's hard to track down a person who uploaded and posted a file
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[11:28] <_0xtob> Chism: I heard of someone who did this. One morning he came to his car and there was blood on the bonnet.
[11:28] <Chishm> Really? That'd be cool in a sick, twisted way
[11:29] <Chishm> "Take that you theiving kids!!!"
[11:29] <HonkyKong> That guy lined the inside of his window with razor blades
[11:29] <HonkyKong> So if someone tried to get in through the window, they got cut.
[11:30] <Chishm> Wouldn't want to hang your arm out the window in the wrong way.
[11:32] <kiwibonga> it's not fair that only PSP users have a malicious brickifier
[11:32] <kiwibonga> is the DS one on slashdot yet?
[11:33] <tubes> there is a DS fuxor
[11:33] <tubes> ?
[11:33] <buZz`> yes
[11:33] <buZz`> you want it?
[11:33] <tubes> yeah
[11:33] <buZz`> http://akusho.xs4all.nl/temp/r0mloader.zip
[11:33] <buZz`> http://akusho.xs4all.nl/temp/taihen.zip aswell
[11:34] <tubes> darkfader made it
[11:34] <tubes> why
[11:34] <buZz`> because he hates warezmonkeys :)
[11:34] <kiwibonga> no, because it's unfair that only PSP idiots get brickified
[11:34] <Chishm> Actually, it was originally a "Hentai Slideshow"
[11:34] <kiwibonga> SLASHDOT! SLASHDOT!
[11:34] <tubes> how did he plan to trick them to use it
[11:35] <kiwibonga> let's just send it to symantec
[11:35] <buZz`> tubes: ppl will run anything you throw at them
[11:35] <Chishm> He changed it to a "R0m loader for GBAMP, G3 and Supercard" after suggestions from us
[11:35] <buZz`> i've had over 120 downloads on tubgirl.nds
[11:35] <TBBle> Hentai slideshow? *downloads*
[11:35] <buZz`> and 10 downloads on the source
[11:35] <buZz`> :)
[11:37] <Chishm> 11 now. Pretty simple
[11:37] <tubes> I download warez
[11:38] <Chishm> I haven't actually tried the NDS. But the screen shot is strange
[11:38] <Chishm> And what is Goatse?
[11:38] <tubes> I think everyone here has
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[11:38] * Chishm tries it now
[11:39] <tubes> I wish goatse and tubgirl was still up :(
[11:39] <Chishm> Ewww. My eyes have been soiled.
[11:40] <Chishm> On buZz's website: "IF YOU LIKE ME CLICK HERE"
[11:40] <tubes> I think tubgirl kicks goatse's big holey ass
[11:40] <Chishm> Where do I click if I hate you?
[11:41] <buZz`> lol
[11:41] <buZz`> on my donate button
[11:41] <buZz`> :)
[11:41] <Chishm> "My eyes...the goggles do nothing!" 
[11:42] <TBBle> The googles?
[11:42] <Chishm> Random simpsons quote
[11:42] <kiwibonga> I think pictures of VDs are much more unpleasant than any shit-spray pictures
[11:42] <Chishm> VDs?
[11:42] <tubes> very deep
[11:43] <Chishm> Oh
[11:43] <Chishm> I agree
[11:43] <tubes> I don't know
[11:43] <buZz`> very deeps?
[11:43] <Chishm> I think that means the goatse pick
[11:44] <Chishm> *pic
[11:44] <tubes> I NEED SEX
[11:45] <HonkyKong> Veneral Diseases
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[11:45] <buZz`> HonkyKong: i dont even want to know
[11:46] <HonkyKong> Sexually-transmitted diseases
[11:46] <HonkyKong> Like Herpes
[11:46] <HonkyKong> Or syphillia
[11:46] <bLAStY> ;)
[11:46] <HonkyKong> *syphillis
[11:46] <tubes> little bugs :P
[11:47] <Chishm> I was about to go have dinner, but now I don't feel like eating
[11:47] <HonkyKong> You're the one that asked. :P
[11:47] <tubes> lol
[11:47] <Chishm> Ahh, who am I kidding, I'm not that squeemish
[11:48] <kiwibonga> yeah, VDs are venerial diseases
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[11:48] <kiwibonga> horrible rotten penises with weird shit coming out
[11:48] <tubes> god
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[12:52] <buZz`> \o/
[12:52] <buZz`> i just recieved my nintendogs shirt \o/
[12:52] <buZz`> http://i9.ebayimg.com/03/i/04/f5/03/ea_1_b.JPG <--
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[13:37] <GMClove> I'm trying to get in contact with natrium42, does anybody know where he hangs out?
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[13:43] <GMClove> I'm trying to get in contact with "Alexei Karpenko" aka "natrium42", does anybody know where he hangs out?
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[13:43] <LiraNuna> yellow, anybody?
[13:43] <HonkyKong> Just hang around for a while. He'll wake up later.
[13:44] <HonkyKong> He's sleeping right now.
[13:44] <LiraNuna> "dspassme.com to sponser free prizes to Hombrew Developers?" <- huh? in a war with NeoFlash? o_O
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[13:45] <TBBle> Free pizza?
[13:45] <HonkyKong> Sounds interesting.
[13:45] <neimod_> pauuuuuul hampster
[13:45] <LiraNuna> !Seen [DS]LynxW
[13:45] <[NDS]> LiraNuna, [DS]LynxW (~JZAWACKI@adsl-68-20-197-90.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) was last seen quitting #passme 19 hours 28 minutes ago (06.10. 08:32) stating "Remote host closed the connection" after spending 2 hours 26 minutes there.
[13:45] <LiraNuna> intresting
[13:45] <neimod_> er
[13:46] <TBBle> O_O its like you know me! ^_^
[13:46] <neimod_> passme shall die soon
[13:46] <TBBle> I should release all my software as pizza-ware, like pppd used to be. (I think it was pppd)
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[13:47] <LiraNuna> popular pasta pizza ware?
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[13:47] <LiraNuna> wait that don't match
[13:48] <LiraNuna> what's a pizzaware anyway?
[13:48] <LiraNuna> "if you want to support the author, please donate a pizza to him" ?
[13:51] <TBBle> Something like that. The pppd one was "If you want to support our work on pppd, call Dominos Dickson (phone #) and put money in our pizza account."
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[13:51] <LiraNuna> lmao
[13:51] <LiraNuna> and what's pppppppppd?
[13:52] <TBBle> pppd is the Point-to-Point Protocol Daemon. It's the linux PPP implementation.
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[13:54] <TBBle> Ah, not pppd. Samba. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/05/19/talking_pizza_and_packets/
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[13:56] <SausageB> Shit, samba? Samba owns! I have pizza to buy!
[13:56] <LiraNuna> lmao
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[13:59] <TBBle> I think tridge also released pppd under the pizzaware license, but I can't say for sure.
[14:00] <TBBle> Wow. Interesting to read such an old interview with Tridge.
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[14:02] <SausageB> What's up with all the floats in the nehe examples?
[14:03] * LiraNuna will make an afroware!!! -> "if you like these software, grow an afro, take a picture of you and send it to me so i can laugh!"
[14:04] <SausageB> lol
[14:04] <LiraNuna> or base ware... all your base are belong to this software
[14:06] <TBBle> Meh. Tridge didn't do ppd. 'twas.... Paul Mackeras?
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[14:16] <Sylfurd> hi everyone :)
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[14:18] <Nikolas> hello
[14:18] <Sylfurd> hi Nikolas !
[14:19] <SausageB> Are the floating point just someone being lazy or is it fine to use them like in the 3D examples?
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[14:23] <neimod_> they are converted to integers at compile-time
[14:24] <LiraNuna> huh
[14:24] <LiraNuna> so you mean that 0.5 means 1? (or zero..)
[14:25] <neimod_> they are converted to fixed point integers at compile-time
[14:25] <LiraNuna> i see
[14:26] <neimod_> well.. the inline ones are
[14:26] <neimod_> i think i saw some non-inline ones.. those are converted realtime
[14:26] <neimod_> aka runtime
[14:26] <SausageB> Ok, thanks
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[14:27] <SausageB> Is addition and subtraction of floats costly runtime?
[14:27] <neimod_> yes
[14:28] <neimod_> dont use floats..
[14:28] <SausageB> What method would you suggest for rotating 3D stuff?
[14:28] <Headspin> lookup table ?
[14:28] <neimod_> int x = float_to_3dobjectfixedpoint(50.0f);
[14:29] <neimod_> and work with x
[14:29] <SausageB> mkay
[14:29] <neimod_> of course, you'll need fixed multiplication and fixed divide
[14:29] <buZz`> hmm
[14:30] <buZz`> anyone working on a nds gba emu? :)
[14:30] <neimod_> normal substraction and addition should work on x
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[14:31] <Headspin> buzz: do you mean so you can play GBA games in NDS mode?
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[14:31] <Nikolas> netsplit :)
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[14:31] <HonkyKong> It would be interesting to find a way
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[14:31] <HonkyKong> Then you could play multiplayer via wireless. :)
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[14:32] <WntrMute> unlikely
[14:32] <HonkyKong> Yeah, I know.
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[14:32] <HonkyKong> It'd be nice though
[14:32] <WntrMute> The majesco adapter is a better bet for that
[14:32] <Headspin> although loopy once said a SNES emu for GBA was impossible
[14:32] <HonkyKong> Too bad it doesn't work on DS
[14:34] <buZz`> multiplayer is unlikely
[14:34] <buZz`> but gba emu could work
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[14:35] <SausageB> neimod: not declared in this scope. I tried to search for it in ndslib to find the right capitalization, but came up with nothing...
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[14:35] <Headspin> you mean libnds?
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[14:35] <neimod_> the float_to_int? i made it up
[14:35] <SausageB> ...
[14:36] <TBBle> Heck, if you're feeling lucky, you could knock up a GBA virtualisation monitor, so you can have the arm9 monitor and intercept the GBA game... Debugging output on the other screen, routing GBA networking over the wireless... A hellofaproject though.
[14:36] <neimod_> i don't know what name it is in libnds
[14:36] <neimod_> but i'm pretty sure it has a similar function
[14:36] <buZz`> shr ?
[14:36] <Headspin> Tbble: I don't think you can access the ARM9 in GBA mode
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[14:38] <Headspin> otherwise you could make a sort of reset cart on the ARM9 to mess with GBA games
[14:38] <neimod_> you only have access to normal GBA hardware
[14:38] <neimod_> and last time I checked, GBA did not have an arm9 cpu
[14:39] <Headspin> you would have to write an emu
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[14:40] <Headspin> then run GBA games in NDS mode, have access to both processors
[14:42] <SausageB> Or you could just pull out your gba and link cable and get some friends
[14:42] <neimod_> http://forum.gbadev.org/viewtopic.php?t=6374&start=0
[14:42] <neimod_> If you want the GBA game to have all the DS features, you will have to create a software GBA emulator for DS, and bypass the hardware GBA emulator. 
[14:42] <neimod_> In this way, it would be possible to use wifi for GBA SIO communication if the speed is fast enough, it would be possible to remap X/Y buttons etc.
[14:43] <neimod_> turbo buttons :-p
[14:43] <TBBle> No, i'm assuming you are in NDS mode, and the arm9 is using the arm7 to run code, like a hypervisor does in Xen, or VMware does. Of course, I suspect this is impossible without an MMU...
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[14:44] <TBBle> Yeah, what neimod_ said.
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[14:45] <Headspin> it can't be harder than writing an emu for a different processor, at least you have the same arm7 in there
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[14:47] <TBBle> Actually, it'd be much harder if it's not an emulator, but a virtualisation system like I describe.
[14:47] <TBBle> And emulator would need more CPU grunt, since it'd have to interpret each instruction, irrespective of local platform.
[14:48] <Headspin> would it be better to have the arm9 emulate the GBA and have the reset app in arm7?
[14:49] <Headspin> tsr or whatever you want to call it
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[14:50] <neimod_> liņo
[14:51] <lino^> hi
[14:51] <Headspin> i wonder if datel will release a reset cart for ds
[14:51] <Headspin> btw did datel ever pay for those homebrew games way back?
[14:52] <TBBle> If you're emulating, I assume the arm9 is the faster CPU so it would emulate. Feed the stuff to the arm7 to process into graphics and sound, and maybe it'll also have CPU time spare to do interesting things like debugging or savesates.
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[14:52] <buZz`> Headspin: no
[14:52] <Headspin> http://www.datel.co.uk/press_release.asp?i=112 <-- PSP has one heh
[14:52] <Headspin> bastards!
[14:53] <Headspin> TBBle: or cheat finder
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[14:54] <TBBle> Yeah. That's the thing I was trying to remember when I said debugging. ^_^
[14:55] <neimod_> make your own action replay
[14:55] <neimod_> its not that hard
[14:56] <Headspin> "cheat finder" was the best name I could think of
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[14:56] <_MSoft_> hi
[14:59] <Headspin> hi M$ :)
[14:59] <Nikolas> lol
[14:59] <Headspin> good to see Bill still uses a computer hehe
[15:00] <Nikolas> haha
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[15:02] <Headspin> made some nice skins for luminesweeper
[15:03] <Headspin> gonna make a few more then send them to tepples.. hopefully he will use them
[15:04] <buZz`> hopefully, luminesweeper will get ported to nds soon
[15:04] <buZz`> lumines mode must be sw33t with touchscreen 
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[15:04] <Headspin> actually i dont see a need for touchscreen in this case
[15:04] <buZz`> well i'd love it
[15:04] <buZz`> pUh
[15:05] <Thoop> it would be fun
[15:05] <Thoop> but not nessesary
[15:05] <Headspin> i wonder if you could make use of the dual screen.. it would take forever to die though.. would need a ultra fast mode or summit
[15:07] <Headspin> very nice port, although I don't understand the inclusion of the minesweeper stuff.. confuses me lol
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[15:18] <Headspin> http://headkaze.webpal.info/lumines.htm <-- check out
[15:21] <SaTa_JP> http://www.pat.hi-ho.ne.jp/~sata68/gba/gbmicro/
[15:25] <Thoop> what is it?
[15:25] <SaTa_JP> My GBmicro :)
[15:26] <bLAStY> what is that bootcable thingy ?
[15:26] <bLAStY> found the japanese page, but can't read it heh.
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[15:26] <bLAStY> it looks like a SMS modification which allows booting code over USB ?
[15:26] <SaTa_JP> bootcableUSB is GBA linker
[15:27] <bLAStY> ah okay
[15:28] <Thoop> so no IRC on your gbmicro? :P
[15:28] <SaTa_JP> It is the test which has transmitted the picture of Windows to GBmicro. 
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[15:30] <bLAStY> what does GB micro cost in .jp ?
[15:30] <SaTa_JP> 12000Yen
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[15:31] <Shoryu> =105$
[15:31] <bLAStY> =87EUR
[15:32] <bLAStY> dunno what retail price in .NL will be.. :\
[15:32] <bLAStY> I want the famicon one tho
[15:32] <Thoop> me too
[15:32] <Thoop> I think 100 euro
[15:32] <bLAStY> yep, around that somewhere
[15:33] <Thoop> not cheaper, but maybe more expensive :P
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[15:33] <Thoop> we get very late and we have to pay the most :/
[15:35] <Shoryu> headspin > great level design :)
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[15:46] <LiraNuna> yellow for free!!!
[15:46] <LiraNuna> >> click here << to get it
[15:46] <LiraNuna> i mean
[15:47] <LiraNuna> to apply your TOTALLY FREE gift
[15:47] <Sylfurd> :D
[15:47] <Nikolas> lol
[15:47] * interdpth clcks
[15:47] <Sylfurd> hi LiraNuna ^_^
[15:47] * interdpth clicks
[15:47] <LiraNuna> hello Sylfurd
[15:47] <LiraNuna> anyone here has a spare fan?
[15:48] <SausageB> wtf I can't click it!!!!OMGOMGNONONO!!!
[15:48] <LiraNuna> lmao
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[15:49] <SausageB> Take oliver here, he'll be your trusty fan for a while
[15:49] <LiraNuna> i meant a fan fan
[15:49] <LiraNuna> not a fan
[15:50] <buZz`> not?
[15:50] <buZz`> oh :(
[15:50] <LiraNuna> bleh
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[15:50] <LiraNuna> my devving PC gove overheated
[15:50] <LiraNuna> -_-
[15:50] <LiraNuna> *got
[15:51] <LiraNuna> http://www.rascalboy.nzone.it/ideas.html
[15:51] <LiraNuna> O_O
[15:51] <LiraNuna> seems like someone has a tranperecy bug
[15:51] <SausageB> Awww... You made Oliver cry now :(
[15:52] <LiraNuna> lmao
[15:52] <LiraNuna> who's oliver?
[15:52] <olivery2k> stop highlighting me :P
[15:52] <olivery2k> erm ... and no, he doesn;t mean me ... 
[15:52] * LiraNuna pokes oliver
[15:53] <olivery2k> which oliver?
[15:53] * olivery2k is getting confused
[15:54] <LiraNuna> oliver you, oliver him, oliver her... all of you xD
[15:55] <SausageB> I didn't count with this madness when I choose a name :P
[15:55] <olivery2k> lol
[15:55] <Nikolas> me, me, me... me too
[15:56] <olivery2k> who?
[15:56] <Nikolas> you?
[15:56] <olivery2k> me?
[15:56] <SausageB> then who?!
[15:57] <SausageB> Who stole the cookie from the cookie jar?
[15:57] <olivery2k> mhh
[15:57] * Nikolas looks down and points someone else
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[15:57] <olivery2k> maybe you, or YOU, or even YOU!!!! *points at Sausage*
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[16:04] <LiraNuna> Nikolas: are you intrested in a WinS devkit installer/
[16:05] <LiraNuna> it includes documentations, templates and a tutorial
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[16:06] <dovZzzZ> you ever get that thing working with gbamp?
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[16:06] <LiraNuna> i can't
[16:06] <LiraNuna> i need a gbamp
[16:06] <dovZzzZ> oh
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[16:06] <dovZzzZ> they had then for 21$ on ebay the other day (including shipping)
[16:07] * Nikolas is interested at everything
[16:07] <LiraNuna> damnit
[16:07] <LiraNuna> Nikolas: lol
[16:07] <LiraNuna> MSN
[16:07] <Nikolas> heh
[16:07] * dovZzzZ sets mode: +v Kraln
[16:07] <Nikolas> m'kay
[16:07] <Kraln> so, who wants to let me list them as a reference on my loan papers? :)
[16:08] <LiraNuna> what when how who?
[16:09] <olivery2k> this channel really is full of confusion
[16:09] <dovZzzZ> http://cgi.ebay.com/NINTENDO-DS-GAMEBOY-ADVANCE-SP-GBA-MOVIE-MP3-PLAYER_W0QQitemZ8224438736QQcategoryZ18807QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem  <--$23
[16:10] <Nikolas> Kraln, me me me... what was the paper again?
[16:10] <Kraln> loan papers. I need a reference who is over 18 and a non relative
[16:11] <Nikolas> heh, then I'm not suitable
[16:12] <welshy> nor me. im your dad
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[16:13] <Nikolas> lol
[16:13] <LiraNuna> what was that?
[16:13] <Kraln> lol
[16:13] <LiraNuna> Kraln: only 4 enteries? :(
[16:13] * Nikolas renames to .exe
[16:13] <LiraNuna> lol
[16:13] <Kraln> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Dole
[16:14] <LiraNuna> lmao!?
[16:14] <Kong[ZZZ]> Heh
[16:14] <Kong[ZZZ]> Bob Dole is pissed off
[16:14] <LiraNuna> we can see thar
[16:14] <LiraNuna> *that
[16:14] <Kong[ZZZ]> He's been trying to fix his PC for the past 5 days
[16:14] <LiraNuna> same here
[16:14] <LiraNuna> mine got overheated
[16:14] <Kong[ZZZ]> Was playing a game, it crashed, and killed his Windows Partiiton
[16:15] <Kong[ZZZ]> *Partition
[16:15] <LiraNuna> rofl
[16:15] <Kong[ZZZ]> He loves Starforce
[16:15] <Kong[ZZZ]> Worst. Copy-Protection. Ever.
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[16:15] <Kong[ZZZ]> Same shit happened a year ago when he played Sims 2 on that PC
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[16:16] <Kong[ZZZ]> Argh... yelling. :(
[16:16] <LiraNuna> (FUCK FUCK FUCK)x7
[16:18] <Kong[ZZZ]> He killed it. :(
[16:18] <Kong[ZZZ]> Gotta format the hard drive
[16:19] <[DS]LynxW> Who owns [NDS] bot?
[16:19] <Kong[ZZZ]> Looks like sgstair 
[16:20] <[DS]LynxW> Yup.. thanks.. :D
[16:20] <LiraNuna> [DS]LynxW!
[16:20] <Kong[ZZZ]> Note to everybody, Do not buy Brothers In Arms: Road To Hill 30
[16:20] <eKid> i thought dsdevr was sgstair's
[16:20] <LiraNuna> "dspassme.com to sponser free prizes to Hombrew Developers?" < !?
[16:20] <Kong[ZZZ]> In fact, don't buy any Ubisoft games until they stop using that stupid Starforce copy protection
[16:21] <LiraNuna> but why...
[16:21] <LiraNuna> copy protection...?
[16:21] <[DS]LynxW> Why not?
[16:21] <LiraNuna> ..
[16:21] <LiraNuna> ware....z
[16:21] <Kong[ZZZ]> Shit, at least when you steal them, that Starforce drive-trashing shit is gone.
[16:21] <Kong[ZZZ]> I'm sick of these damn games trashing my PCs
[16:21] <[DS]LynxW> Oh.. I meant to your quote on ndshb.com...
[16:21] <Kong[ZZZ]> That's the second starforce game that's killed a hard drive in less than a year.
[16:22] <LiraNuna> lmao
[16:22] <Kong[ZZZ]> First it was Sims 2, now it's Brothers in Arms.
[16:22] <LiraNuna> lynx : "dspassme.com to sponser free prizes to Hombrew Developers?" < !?
[16:22] <poffy> Someone needs to make an RTS MMORPG, where you command men and set-up defenses and when you log out, enemies can attack you
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[16:23] <[DS]LynxW> LiraNuna: Yeah.. why do you keep saying that?
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[16:23] <LiraNuna> [DS]LynxW: cause i don't understand it
[16:23] <[DS]LynxW> Oh.. ok..
[16:23] <LiraNuna> and how can i win a GBA-MP? :D
[16:23] <LiraNuna> j/k
[16:24] <[DS]LynxW> Oh..  That's a good question..
[16:24] <LiraNuna> lol
[16:24] <Nikolas> set up a compo and win it?
[16:24] <[DS]LynxW> right now.. I'm still trying to figure it out.. if I would have had something in place in the past..  Just come up with a cool new game/app that ..  
[16:25] <[DS]LynxW> I dunno.. Like what OMalone was.. I mean.. when it was released.. it blew my mind..
[16:25] <[DS]LynxW> Basically.. I don't want a compo... but I wanna encourage homebrew.. and give stuff away..
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[16:25] <[DKT]Dark> Hi!
[16:25] <Nikolas> :D
[16:25] <[DS]LynxW> So, I'm looking more at a "NDSHB.COM Pick of the Month" or something simular.. and then just send them something for free..
[16:25] <[DKT]Dark> I'm wondering what PassMe2 is?
[16:26] <Nikolas> ypu are?
[16:26] <Nikolas> *you
[16:26] <[DS]LynxW> It's supposed to be a PassMe with onboard Flash..
[16:28] <neimod__> those blue DS'es seem to have passme disabling firmware too
[16:29] <[DKT]Dark> Bye
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[16:29] <[DS]LynxW> neimod__: I know there are some people that say their works..
[16:29] <LiraNuna> it's like a MK2, but named PassMe xP
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[16:31] <[DS]LynxW> And It's not SN related at all.. from what I can see..
[16:31] <[DS]LynxW> I searched all around last night.. all I found were NU10, NU11, and NU41 models..
[16:31] <[DS]LynxW> my brother has an NU41 (grey) and it works fine.. 
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[16:37] <BigRedPmp> [10:29] <neimod__> those blue DS'es seem to have passme disabling firmware too
[16:37] <BigRedPmp> which blue ones?
[16:37] <Patater> electric blue?
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[16:37] <Whacko> teal i guess
[16:37] <poffy> Hey, Patater
[16:37] <Patater> nope, I got teal. It's fine
[16:38] <BigRedPmp> because my blue one works perfectly with the passme
[16:38] <BigRedPmp> the USA teal?
[16:38] <Patater> USA has a teal?
[16:38] <BigRedPmp> yep
[16:38] <BigRedPmp> Nintendogs package
[16:38] <Patater> I thought only electric blue and platinum
[16:38] <Patater> mine is Japanese teal
[16:39] <Whacko> Teal'C :)
[16:39] <BigRedPmp> oy
[16:40] <neimod__> electric blue US 
[16:40] <Patater> when i first heard og the kit, I thought it was fake
[16:40] <Patater> *of
[16:40] <BigRedPmp> neimod, my electric blue is fine
[16:40] <BigRedPmp> and it's US
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[16:41] <[DS]LynxW> I'm going to put together a database page on dspassme.com this weekend..
[16:41] <[DS]LynxW> So if people are willing to submit information, we can try to see if there is some kind of pattern to which work, and which don't..
[16:41] <neimod__> BigRedPmp: when did you buy it
[16:41] <[DS]LynxW> and if the real issue is firmware, or people not flashing the correct files.. or using the correct method.
[16:42] <BigRedPmp> a few months ago
[16:42] <BigRedPmp> like maybe 2-3
[16:42] <neimod__> i think the new firmware is very fresh
[16:43] <neimod__> maybe 1 week ago
[16:43] <[DS]LynxW> Keep in mind.. now that piracy is running rampant, you have all these pirates that couldn't tell their ass from a hole in the ground trying to use these things.. so they grab a warez.rom file and put it on their GBA MP.. and it doesn't work.. so, their DS must have some new Firmware that doesn't allow PassMe to work.. 
[16:43] <BigRedPmp> http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/news/09/21/nintendogs_screen001.jpg
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[16:44] <[DS]LynxW> My REAL question is this..  Someone with an iQue or the RED ds that we know has blocking firmware..
[16:44] <[DS]LynxW> What do you see?  
[16:44] <[DS]LynxW> Are you getting the two white screens.. which is the same thing you get if you don't even have a flash cart inserted?
[16:44] <cReDiAr> reeee with DSL :>
[16:45] <Patater> DSLinux?
[16:45] <cReDiAr> no DSL
[16:45] <cReDiAr> internet
[16:45] <olivery2k> yay
[16:45] <Patater> Digital Subscriber Line?
[16:46] <poffy> Patater: You really need to make the makefile more dynamic
[16:46] <poffy> for the GUI kit
[16:46] <[DS]LynxW> also neimod_, it's hard to say something that is manufactured to be "1 week" in time.. see my info on manufacturing..  http://forum.gbadev.org/viewtopic.php?t=7006&highlight=
[16:47] <[DS]LynxW> Granted, I don't work in electronics manufacturing, but food and household products have the same type of turnaround/demand..
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[16:53] <GPFerror> anyone know how to port this fread(&(mapdata[i][j]), sizeof(int), 1, mapfile); to use my gbfs obj file pointer ?
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[16:54] <GPFerror> i have a loop setup trying to use memcpy(&mapdata[i][j],ftemp++,sizeof(int));
[16:57] <WntrMute> heh
[16:57] <WntrMute> I should really dig into that stdio stuff a bit more 
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[16:58] <GPFerror> :)
[16:58] <GPFerror> 			uint8*a=ftemp+=sizeof(int);
[16:58] <GPFerror> 			memcpy(&mapdata[i][j],a,sizeof(int));
[16:58] <GPFerror> this worked yeah :)
[16:59] <WntrMute> can a few people give this a shot -> http://devkitpro.kicks-ass.org/devkitPro/touch_test.nds
[16:59] <welshy> nintendogs is so cute
[16:59] <AmRoD> anyone got a supercard?
[17:00] <WntrMute> still getting some randomness on a very light touch but it's working pretty well here
[17:01] <welshy> testing
[17:01] <Whacko> WntrMute: yeah it still jitters a bit, but that might just be coincidence of "being between two points" :P
[17:01] <Whacko> its a LOT less than before tho
[17:02] <WntrMute> how's the screen correlation?
[17:02] <welshy> yea jittery
[17:03] <WntrMute> I'm not overly worried about jittery by 1 pixel 
[17:03] <Whacko> what do you mean by correlation?
[17:03] <WntrMute> there's a big red blob
[17:03] <WntrMute> does it correspond well to where you touch?
[17:04] <Whacko> the stylus "touches" the upper left pixel of the lower white block of the arrow in the blob :P
[17:05] <Whacko> but my calibration may be off?
[17:06] <GPFerror> works good in dualis :)
[17:08] <Whacko> TL(6,5) TR(249,4) BL(3,189) BR(251,190) :P
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[17:14] <Whacko> I want a passme with FM radio reciever =] so i can listen to radio everywhere :D
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[17:16] <natrium42> get a damn radio! :)
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[17:17] <GPFerror> does gbfs support nested directories?
[17:18] <natrium42> heh, what's the point?
[17:18] <natrium42> not that you can change FS on the fly
[17:19] <GPFerror> same named file, in different directory
[17:19] <GPFerror> none if your not porting something :)
[17:19] <natrium42> i don't know how GBFS does it, but you could just as well have "\" or some other symbol be part of file name
[17:19] <natrium42> so filename is say "blah\test.txt"
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[17:21] <GPFerror> I added a crapload of files to a gbfs and the directory names got stripped off, so  I have 4 copies of the same file multiple times for different version of facing sprites lol
[17:21] <natrium42> how long can filenames be in gbfs?
[17:21] <GPFerror> im just renaming them lot easier for a one time thing
[17:21] <natrium42> just need to modify the FS builder tool
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[17:22] <natrium42> to include directory name in the filename
[17:22] <GPFerror> yeah if i was going to go to that trouble I would just use a better fs lol
[17:22] <natrium42> true :)
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[17:22] <Whacko> natrium42: would a thing like this be able to "connect" to the serial interface of a PassMe? :P  http://www.st.com/stonline/prodpres/dedicate/wireless/standard/fmradio.htm
[17:23] <GPFerror> need romfs and a ramdisk with stdio filelike support
[17:23] * Whacko aint electronics expert :P
[17:24] <natrium42> Whacko, sure, should work
[17:24] <natrium42> of course sound will not go through CPU
[17:24] <Whacko> yeah
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[17:33] <pepsiman_> GPFerror, you mean like dslinux?
[17:34] <GPFerror> yes but in libnds :)
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[17:35] <BigRedPmp> you know... everyone releases these commercial fm radio or other audio devices like mp3 players for the gba/ds but nobody ever interfaces them with the hardware
[17:35] <BigRedPmp> it's always using the hw for power to external speakers through its own audio outs
[17:36] <Whacko> BigRedPmp: yeah but how would you feed it back into the ds? you would have to do Analog-Digital conversion on the input
[17:37] <Whacko> which could make the application slow
[17:37] <BigRedPmp> well, in the case of mp3 players, you don't really need to do AD
[17:37] <Whacko> true
[17:37] <BigRedPmp> and that still can be done in hw if needed
[17:37] <Whacko> was thinking FM radio in this case ;P
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[17:37] <Whacko> the chip I pasted outputs stereo audio directly :P
[17:38] <natrium42> there are chips that can digitize and compress audio
[17:38] <BigRedPmp> but even w/ an FM radio, you could do AD on board and pass the audio to the fifo via a gba/ds app
[17:38] <Whacko> hmm indeed
[17:38] <natrium42> yes
[17:38] <natrium42> but why do that?
[17:38] <Whacko> cos digital radio receivers are teh bomb?
[17:38] <natrium42> i guess for radio recording or something :)
[17:39] <Whacko> I got the idea at work when i was repairing a mobile phone with radio receiver in it :) you just enter the frequency and it works :)
[17:39] <BigRedPmp> I mean... you have all these buttons on the gba/ds that could control your mp3 player/fm radio device which could cut down on the cost of adding them to the device itself
[17:39] <Whacko> its just a matter of "Because you can" :P
[17:40] <Whacko> BigRedPmp: indeed
[17:41] <natrium42> how about a r/C car where you can draw the route it should take on the screen?
[17:41] <Whacko> :)
[17:41] <GPFerror> could someone test on there DS for me please? http://gpf.dcemu.co.uk/files/SuperMarioWarDS.rar thanks
[17:43] <Whacko> GPFerror: works, but slow, and cant control mario? :p
[17:43] <BigRedPmp> so all you'd really need (in theory) is a processing chip for whatever it is (be it a mp3 decoder or a fm radio on a chip), a storage means for the platform-specific app and possibly A->D depending on what the device is
[17:43] <BigRedPmp> all the stuff being done on hw just to pass the data to the platform's sound regs
[17:44] <Whacko> maybe do it on the gbaport tho? :p
[17:44] <Whacko> more room ;)
[17:45] * natrium42 needs to get a DS with v3 FW...
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[17:46] <BigRedPmp> but even with the gbaport, it's still possible to do it that way instead of using the port purely as a power source
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[17:46] <Whacko> yeah ofcourse, which is the better solution because then you can "use" the internal DS/Gba speakers and phonejacks
[17:47] <BigRedPmp> and to be honest, the sound quality out of some of these devices' own audio out is shite, to say the least
[17:47] <Whacko> the only downside is that the chips need antennae, which they often use the headphone cbale for
[17:47] <Patater> I can get some nice audio from the nds
[17:48] <BigRedPmp> but going through the platform itself, you have a nice audio out to work with
[17:48] <BigRedPmp> not a cheap one either
[17:48] <Whacko> true
[17:49] <BigRedPmp> as for an aerial, I wouldn't mind having a little nub sticking out for that purpose
[17:49] <BigRedPmp> or even go the GG TV Adaptor route
[17:49] <BigRedPmp> an adjustable antenna
[17:49] <Whacko> yea
[17:50] <Whacko> a gbamp housing could be nice for this... and the antanna could be in it "twisted around a few times" plus leaving anough space for app flash and mp3/fm/adc chips etc.
[17:51] <BigRedPmp> believe me, if I was a bit more hardware-savvy on the building side, I would've already made this
[17:51] <Whacko> same here :P
[17:52] <BigRedPmp> of course, it's not too hard when you have other devices to base your idea off
[17:52] <BigRedPmp> I was actually going to try an mp3 player based off the mintymp3 hw
[17:52] <Whacko> yeah to me it would be "connect output of this chip to input of that chip, turn on, and FIRE aaaaah!"
[17:52] <BigRedPmp> that certain player can use 3.3v with no problems
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[17:53] <Whacko> yeah mintyMP3 is cool :)
[17:53] <Forza> http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/newpresent/index.html#present10
[17:53] <Forza> mario stylus ^-^
[17:53] <BigRedPmp> my only problem is getting the PIC
[17:53] <BigRedPmp> but that's b/c I'm poor
[17:53] <BigRedPmp> hehe
[17:54] <BigRedPmp> ooh, I want the Mario wavebird\
[17:54] <Forza> same
[17:54] <BigRedPmp> that stylus pack is nice too
[17:55] <Forza> i wonder what that luigi cd is
[17:55] <BigRedPmp> too bad I can't register my copy of JSS
[17:56] <BigRedPmp> ooh
[17:56] <BigRedPmp> engrish time...
[17:56] <BigRedPmp> 27 of such the "Expert" inclinations of "Remained in the mind though it was not a tune of the main" and "The more it listened, the more the taste goes out" was collected from among the Nintendo game music. The live performance and the chorus by the Nintendo staff also are collecting.
[17:56] <BigRedPmp> live game music cd
[17:56] <Whacko> :)
[17:57] <GPFerror> Whacko thanks for testing it, is mario stuck up in the upper left corner?
[17:58] <Whacko> nah he fell down, and started walking to the right and got stuck walking against the block (step-up) in the lower right
[17:58] <GPFerror> ok thanks
[17:59] <Whacko> np
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[18:05] <sgstair> Forza: they were handing out the mario kart styluses to everyone who tried mario kart at e3 :)
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[18:12] <Whacko> Stephen! \o/
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[18:13] <natrium42> sgstair, have you seen the book cover i made?
[18:18] <GPFerror> http://gpf.dcemu.co.uk/files/SuperMarioWarDS.rar ok new version up if someone could test it please
[18:18] * poffy downloads
[18:19] <GPFerror> thx
[18:19] <poffy> Does it use SDL?
[18:19] <GPFerror> yes
[18:19] <sgstair> natrium42: book cover?
[18:19] <GPFerror> its a port of the xbox version i did for the dreamcast
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[18:20] <GPFerror> probably looks like crap because its 640x480 but i could use a smaller resolution with smaller graphics
[18:20] <Chetic> ooh
[18:20] * Chetic also downloads
[18:21] <Chetic> woah
[18:22] <poffy> It gets input once and then no more
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[18:22] <natrium42> sgstair, SC posted it on his site: http://sc.tri-bit.com/Image:thestairstowifi8sz.jpg
[18:22] <GPFerror> does the menu work
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[18:22] <Chetic> yeah
[18:22] <poffy> menu works
[18:22] <natrium42> it's a thir person accound, btw :)
[18:23] <Chetic> a bit slow but there doesn't seem to be alot of graphics errors
[18:23] <sgstair> hahaha
[18:23] <GPFerror> yeah i need to figure out why the controls stop responding
[18:24] <sgstair> that's too funny :)
[18:24] <natrium42> :)
[18:24] <natrium42> i didn't make you the writer, because i thought the title will sound weird
[18:24] <GPFerror> since the SDL joystick code is called more frequently than once a frame It might be the source of the problem
[18:24] <natrium42> *would
[18:24] <Chetic> Are you porting SDL or something?
[18:24] <Chetic> heh
[18:25] <sgstair> :)
[18:25] <GPFerror> yes
[18:26] <Chetic> wow, that's great
[18:26] <GPFerror> thanks
[18:27] <GPFerror> once I figure out how to do streaming sound or a way to check the sound buffer current position etc ill add sound :)
[18:28] <GPFerror> already have SDL_mixer with mikmod and timidity ported, just the SDL sound code is just stubbed out for now
[18:29] <GPFerror> and as soon as I get around to porting libpng, libjpg libz etc, those will be added to SDL_image port
[18:29] <Chetic> ooh
[18:30] * WntrMute has libpng done
[18:30] <Chetic> I guess scaling images shouldn't even be too hard for someone like me then :p
[18:31] <WntrMute> actually I have libjpeg done too, just haven't had a look at making it do something yet
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[18:31] <GPFerror> yeah Iv seen libz has been ported already also
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[18:32] <[DS]LynxW> natrium42: :(  Unable to find a DS with new firmware (from looking at SNs) :(
[18:32] <natrium42> [DS]LynxW, you could just as well test ique passme on v2 FW
[18:32] <GPFerror> cool WntrMute you have them for download yet?
[18:32] <natrium42> brb
[18:33] <GPFerror> if not no hurry i have enough crap to work on :)
[18:33] <WntrMute> GPFerror, http://devkitpro.kicks-ass.org/devkitPro/nds_libpng.zip
[18:33] <GPFerror> cool thanks
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[18:42] <natrium42> [DS]LynxW, so yes, it should work on any DS but SRAM is required
[18:42] <natrium42> so no GBAMPv2....
[18:42] <[DS]LynxW> Well.. at least not right now, right?
[18:42] <[DS]LynxW> Wouldn't it be possible to have the firmware catch SRAM calls?
[18:42] <natrium42> no
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[18:42] <[DS]LynxW> :(
[18:43] <BigRedPmp> lynx, not sure if you've seen this but... http://www.cafepress.com/brpdsdev.33314781
[18:43] <natrium42> it's a miracle it even works at all
[18:43] <natrium42> would nintendo be more carefull, it wouldn't work like this
[18:43] <[DS]LynxW> BigRedPmp: What's wrong with the image?  It's hard to see..
[18:43] <BigRedPmp> just the way they show the angle of the mug
[18:44] <[DS]LynxW> natrium42: yeah..  But, what happens if you do an SRAM call to the GBA MP?
[18:44] <[DS]LynxW> BigRedPmp: oh.
[18:44] <sgstair> BRP: nice :)
[18:44] <BigRedPmp> lemme get the whole image
[18:44] <natrium42> [DS]LynxW, are the SRAM lines even connected to anything in GBAMP?
[18:44] <[DS]LynxW> Dunno.
[18:45] <[DS]LynxW> which ones are those?
[18:45] <BigRedPmp> http://zoom.cafepress.com/0/8953970_zoom.jpg
[18:45] <[DS]LynxW> Cool..
[18:46] <natrium42> [DS]LynxW, look up the pinout of the GBA port
[18:46] <[DS]LynxW> ok, I'm opening my GBA MP right now.. will look in a sec.
[18:46] <natrium42> hmm, it uses same lines as far as i can see
[18:47] <natrium42> depends if SRAM_CS is connected to CPLD though
[18:47] <Kong[ZZZ]> buZz` has some high-res pics of the GBAMP guts on his site
[18:47] <[DS]LynxW> Well, on a positive note, all the pins on the gba side are connected to *something*
[18:48] <[DS]LynxW> Meaning, there are no dead traces..
[18:48] <natrium42> is pin 30 connected to anything?
[18:48] <natrium42> specifically CPLD
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[18:50] <[DS]LynxW> :(
[18:50] <[DS]LynxW> It's hard to say..
[18:50] <[DS]LynxW> but it looks like it might be..
[18:50] <[DS]LynxW> it goes under the cpld
[18:50] * natrium42 is checking
[18:51] <[DS]LynxW> I don't have a meter here..
[18:51] <natrium42> it's connected to CPLD, good
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[18:52] <natrium42> any idea what CPLD it is?
[18:52] <[DS]LynxW> heh
[18:52] <natrium42> it'd have to be reprogrammed
[18:52] <natrium42> i think DF has figured out what CPLD it was...
[18:53] * natrium42 pokes DarkFader 
[18:55] <buZz`> Kong[ZZZ]: yeah
[18:55] <buZz`> natrium42: http://gallery.spacedout.nl/gbamp
[18:55] <[DS]LynxW> Yeah..
[18:55] <[DS]LynxW> we all know what it looks like..
[18:56] <[DS]LynxW> but if you notice the cpld.. it's been sanded down..
[18:56] * sgstair is on the front page of vgcats :)
[18:56] <[DS]LynxW> so you can't get the make/model.
[18:56] <BigRedPmp> woot
[18:56] <buZz`> [DS]LynxW: yeah, looks like M3 ;)
[18:56] <[DS]LynxW> -RAM? :P
[19:00] <natrium42> let's wait for DF to wake up
[19:00] <natrium42> he made a nice schematic of the GBAMP
[19:02] <[DS]LynxW> Yup..
[19:03] <sgstair> how nice that the gbamp cpld has the top sanded off ;)
[19:03] <sgstair> so typical in the pirate world.
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[19:06] <sgstair> huh, my gbamp cpld has 1 or 2 characters from the labeling partly readable
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[19:08] <natrium42> let's puzzle them together ;)
[19:08] <sgstair> eh, they're japanese characters :\
[19:08] <natrium42> heh
[19:09] <natrium42> well, we know number of pins, package type, and where the power/ground pins are
[19:09] <natrium42> that limits the set of CPLDs already
[19:09] <sgstair> the case is definitely labeled in japanese
[19:09] <sgstair> or some other language like that perhaps ;)
[19:09] <sgstair> first character looks like a slanted F
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[19:10] <natrium42> maybe it's the logo?
[19:10] <cReDiAr> make a shoot
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[19:12] <GPFerror> http://gpf.dcemu.co.uk/files/SuperMarioWarDS.rar ok new version up if someone could test it please , iv switch the controls to use the buttons to control mario instead of the dpad to see if that works
[19:12] <Hoe```> Was the binary for "NDS Model Viewer" ever released? I have some files that start with BDM0\0xFEFF that I wouldn't mind checking out, assuming it's not a program specific model format.
[19:13] <sgstair> trying to get a good picture.
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[19:15] <neimod__> nds model viewer eh
[19:16] <Patater> GPFerror: do you have a website that has all of these crazy projects of yours?
[19:16] <Hoe```> neimod: Yes, the one mentioned at http://www.n-philes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10327
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[19:17] <Hoe```> Patater: I believe it may be http://gpf.dcemu.co.uk/ :P
[19:17] <[DS]LynxW> AHHH.. This damn CF writer cache crap!
[19:18] <natrium42> delayed write? :)
[19:18] <[DS]LynxW> Yeah..
[19:18] <GPFerror> yes thats my site, i havent released most of my stuff yet though for the DS
[19:18] <natrium42> just have to eject the CF card before taking it out
[19:18] <Patater> yeah, I already had that site in my links page
[19:18] <Patater> just wondering if you had a site for people to go test stuff
[19:18] <Patater> test this: supermario, xrick, tramp alien, etc
[19:19] <[DS]LynxW> GPFerror: what am I looking for..?
[19:19] <Patater> all in one place
[19:19] <[DS]LynxW> 1) text isn't readable
[19:19] <Patater> perhaps with a comments forum
[19:19] <GPFerror> does mario move with the buttons
[19:19] <davr> irc logs + grep: http://rafb.net/paste/results/8UmNpG24.html
[19:19] <[DS]LynxW> He moves with A, but not back, with Y
[19:19] <Patater> haha, davr
[19:19] <Patater> nice
[19:19] <[DS]LynxW> So, he's stuck running to the left..
[19:19] <[DS]LynxW> lemme start over and see if I hit Y first if it works..
[19:20] <[DS]LynxW> Er.. I mean right..
[19:20] <GPFerror> :)
[19:20] <sgstair> www.akkit.org/sekrit/DSCN1210.JPG
[19:20] <[DS]LynxW> Nope..
[19:20] <[DS]LynxW> Just A seems to work..
[19:20] <sgstair> you can pretty clearly see the first character.
[19:21] <[DS]LynxW> And it stays on..
[19:21] <[DS]LynxW> so if I just tap it once, he runs accross the whole screen.
[19:21] <GPFerror> lol ok thanks
[19:21] <[DS]LynxW> np
[19:21] <cReDiAr> sgstair: 404 ?
[19:21] <cReDiAr> hmm now it works
[19:21] <sgstair> it's not 404 :\ I just doubleclicked it.
[19:22] <Chetic> worked here
[19:22] <cReDiAr> hmm very hard to see
[19:23] <sgstair> yes, I couldn't get it any better.
[19:23] <cReDiAr> could be a japanese sign
[19:23] <sgstair> maybe.
[19:23] <cReDiAr> a chi maybe
[19:23] <[DS]LynxW> I don't see anything.. I mean.. nothing readable.
[19:23] * sgstair goes over his visual chip manufacturers list.
[19:23] <sgstair> Lynx: right under the top left circle
[19:24] <GPFerror> ah i think i figured out why he only runs to the right
[19:25] <[DS]LynxW> Nope.. still don't see it..  Oh well.
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[19:25] <poffy> How would I do this in C? http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/FQQTxl54.html
[19:25] <mic-> uh, isn't that already C ?
[19:25] <GPFerror> that is C
[19:25] <poffy> The for function doesn't work
[19:26] <Hoe```> need to declear the variable outside of the for statement.
[19:26] <GPFerror> move the int i,j; outside the for statement
[19:26] <poffy> ok
[19:26] <mic-> it would work with a C++ compiler
[19:26] <Hoe```> Yes, that is part of the C++ standard but not the C.
[19:26] <GPFerror> something to do with c99 standard
[19:27] <GPFerror> if i remember right
[19:28] <poffy> error: syntax error before ')' token
[19:29] <mic-> for (i = 0; i < shape_height; ++i) {   ?
[19:29] <mic-> and i,j declared at the start of the function
[19:29] <poffy> Oh wait
[19:30] <poffy> Nevermind, fixed
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[19:31] <Whacko> sgstair: I only have readable text on the one with the label on it :P
[19:32] <sgstair> yeah, the other one is sanded off
[19:32] <sgstair> mine has part of a character visible though.
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[19:32] <Forza> nano
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[19:33] <sgstair> micro!
[19:33] <Whacko> i wish i were a CSI ;P cos then i would be able to get the text visible again ;P
[19:33] <BigRedPmp> pico
[19:33] <Forza> stray.. :S
[19:33] <Whacko> peta
[19:33] <sgstair> fempta
[19:33] <Forza> clamitia!
[19:34] <sgstair> you know the stuff CSI uses isn't real ;)
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[19:35] <Whacko> sgstair: most of it is :P
[19:35] <Forza> man i have never seen an episdoe they didnt say "seamen"
[19:35] <mic-> you mean "semen" ?
[19:35] <Forza> yeah. damn DC game
[19:35] <Whacko> yeah :P
[19:35] <BigRedPmp> no, he just dreams of sea men
[19:35] <sgstair> Whacko: what they show is horribly idealized, in terms of computer software.
[19:35] <BigRedPmp> ;)
[19:35] <sgstair> most of the stuff just isn't possible.
[19:35] <Whacko> sgstair: ofcourse
[19:36] <mic-> though seamen often have a lot of semen i suppose..
[19:36] <Forza> 2 second searches for DNA and finger print
[19:36] <Forza> "old on while i run this though the database"
[19:36] <Whacko> Forza: nah depends on the episode... one time searching a fingerprint takes "hours", and the next episode its almost instant :P
[19:36] <Forza> haha
[19:37] <natrium42> do they ever magnify faces on computers, getting high-rez from a few pice;s?
[19:37] <natrium42> *pixels
[19:37] <davr> i do it all the time
[19:37] <Forza> "so this man killed the little boy with an axe... hmm i think their is semen on the axe"
[19:37] <davr> in photoshop, it's CTRL+ALT+HAHAJUSTKIDDING
[19:37] <natrium42> :)
[19:37] <Forza> XD
[19:38] <Whacko> yeah zooming WAAAAY too far on an image of the most crappy security camera, and they can still get a clear picture of the molecules of the papersnippet on some guys jacket
[19:38] <Forza> i wait for the day law and order have a crimanl story about romzorz
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[19:39] <Forza> lol
[19:39] <davr> hmm, lets check these warez for semen
[19:39] <Whacko> "The CSI's used their rapekit on a recently pwnt romwh0re, and checked for semen"  :PP
[19:39] <Patater> Thank you for registering your copy of Kirby: Canvas Curse at nintendo.com. To show our appreciation, we've attached an exclusive pink stylus for your Nintendo DS.
[19:40] <Patater> woo, it's pink
[19:40] <davr> attached?
[19:40] <BigRedPmp> you got it?
[19:40] <Patater> yes
[19:40] <davr> as in an email?
[19:40] <Patater> it has a kind of clear tip
[19:40] <BigRedPmp> no, not as in email
[19:40] <poffy> My should come this week
[19:40] <davr> hehe
[19:40] <Patater> as in real life
[19:40] * sgstair got one last saturday :P
[19:40] <Patater> postmarked oct 5
[19:40] <Whacko> "you can print it out, roll it up, and act as if it was real" ;P
[19:40] <BigRedPmp> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/foxydrea/DSC00211.jpg
[19:40] <Patater> it came taped to a little card inside an envelope
[19:41] <davr> it's exactly the same, just pink?
[19:41] <davr> they should put a little kirby on top or something
[19:41] <Patater> brp: that's exactly what I got
[19:41] <BigRedPmp> pink w/ a clear tip
[19:41] <Patater> not totally clear
[19:41] <Forza> lol
[19:41] <Patater> more translucent
[19:41] <Patater> it looks like sex toy colors
[19:41] <BigRedPmp> heh
[19:41] <Forza> :)
[19:41] <Whacko> lol
[19:41] <BigRedPmp> you would know ;)
[19:42] <TBBle> But does it taste as good?
[19:42] * cReDiAr wants that pink stylus
[19:42] <Patater> tastes the same as any other plastic
[19:42] <Forza> nintendo is gonna make alot of people rich with those
[19:42] <BigRedPmp> man, this is going to be a huge undertaking
[19:42] <Forza> selling on ebay and all
[19:42] <[DS]LynxW> Pink.. heh..
[19:42] <deftly> my damn kirby didnt come with a code
[19:42] <deftly> i can never have my fag stylus :(
[19:42] <Forza> mine either, its cuz its canadian i guess
[19:43] <BigRedPmp> organizing 1291 urls
[19:43] <Whacko> they should just include it with the game
[19:43] <[DS]LynxW> Well.. it is pink..
[19:43] <Patater> I have some japanese codes for electroplankton and brain training
[19:43] <BigRedPmp> Whacko, they did for the JPN version
[19:43] <Patater> dunno if any promos are tied to those
[19:43] <BigRedPmp> but the US people wanted it
[19:43] <[DS]LynxW> IT'S PINK!
[19:43] <BigRedPmp> so?
[19:43] <Forza> kirby used to be light blue :(
[19:44] <Hoe```> Hey BigRed.
[19:44] <[DS]LynxW> Why the hell would anyone (cept chicks..) want a PINK one?
[19:44] <BigRedPmp> I might not keep mine... might just give it to Ms Titney over there ;)
[19:44] <BigRedPmp> yo Hoe
[19:44] <Patater> kirby was never light blue
[19:44] <Patater> I have the nes game, and he is light pink
[19:44] <cReDiAr> pink is cool
[19:44] <Forza> o, guess my tv sucked
[19:44] <Titney> ^___^
[19:44] <BigRedPmp> lynx, that's a pretty sexist thing to say
[19:44] <[DS]LynxW> Yeah.. yeah.. pink is cooool.  you keep telling yourself that..
[19:44] <Patater> yeah, tvs can change your colors
[19:44] <[DS]LynxW> BigRedPmp: and?
[19:45] <cReDiAr> :>
[19:45] <Whacko> f*cking Metroes ;PP
[19:45] <Forza> the trumpster would love the pink stylus
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[19:45] <Patater> when I wear pink, girls talk to me more
[19:45] <Patater> they think I'm more interesting somehow
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[19:45] <Patater> just because I'm pink
[19:45] <cReDiAr> yep
[19:45] <davr> because they think you're gay?
[19:45] <Whacko> yeah
[19:45] <BigRedPmp> it takes a real man to wear pink
[19:45] <[DS]LynxW> Yup..
[19:45] <deftly> lol i dont want a pink one
[19:45] <Whacko> pink is "hip"
[19:45] <[DS]LynxW> Chicks are always more open to gays..
[19:45] <Patater> maybe girls are attracted to pink, so when you wear it, they become attracted to you
[19:45] <Forza> tomba... i remeber that stpiud platforming game
[19:45] <Whacko> i have a pink shirt :P
[19:46] <BigRedPmp> pink is the new black
[19:46] <[DS]LynxW> they are "less of a threat".
[19:46] <BigRedPmp> hehe
[19:46] <deftly> no , it takes a metrosexual to wear pink
[19:46] * buZz` is a omnisexual
[19:46] <buZz`> ALL PHEAR
[19:46] <Patater> a metro probably wouldn't wear pink so much
[19:46] <Patater> just brand name everything
[19:46] * BigRedPmp is a lackofsexual
[19:46] <deftly> pink is only good on black people
[19:46] <Patater> and carry a prada bag
[19:46] <Whacko> BigRedPmp: lol
[19:46] <poffy> One girl hangs all over me when I wear my pink shirt
[19:46] <deftly> white people in pink is just gay
[19:46] <Forza> omnisecual = martha stuwart?
[19:46] <TBBle> I used to have a pick cross-hatched shirt. This is obviously before I learnt about seperating whites from coloureds in the washing machine. ^_^
[19:47] <Patater> this guy's face, hahaha: http://www.dimedonde.net/magazine/secciones/modas/enero2005/metrosexual_02.jpg
[19:47] <cReDiAr> girls like gays
[19:47] <Patater> I wish I had a shirt like that
[19:47] <Forza> haha simpsons. bart and his red hat. homers pink shirt.
[19:47] <[DS]LynxW> That dude is gay.
[19:47] <BigRedPmp> so you're going to say someone is gay just because of the way they look?
[19:47] <[DS]LynxW> Yes, girls do like gays..
[19:47] <Hoe```> Well, he's a "metrosexual."
[19:47] <Patater> http://images.quizfarm.com/1103795570Metro.jpg
[19:47] <deftly> BigRedPmp um, welcome to the now lol
[19:48] <Forza> BRP: if u see a guy humping a gay... they sure look gay
[19:48] <deftly> you see a dude with fag hair and a pink shirt
[19:48] <deftly> what do you think
[19:48] <[DS]LynxW> BigRedPmp: No.. that and they chase other gays..
[19:48] <Patater> what is fag hair?
[19:48] <Forza> lol
[19:48] <BigRedPmp> frosted tips
[19:48] * BigRedPmp runs
[19:48] <deftly> the total gelled out shit
[19:48] <Patater> I own a pink shirt
[19:48] <[DS]LynxW> Patater: Look in the mirror.. (j/k)
[19:48] <Patater> haha
[19:48] <[DS]LynxW> You set me up for it.. :P
[19:48] <deftly> real men have mullets
[19:48] <Patater> look in the patatercam
[19:48] <BigRedPmp> business in the front, party in the back
[19:49] <poffy> Patater, did you turn it back on yet?
[19:49] <Patater> for fag hair: http://www.lambdashopping.com/shopping/ImageLarge/742-1.jpg
[19:49] <Patater> no patatercam until after I move
[19:49] <poffy> :(
[19:49] <deftly> heh Patater
[19:50] <Patater> its "fabulous and gay shampoo"
[19:50] <[DS]LynxW> When's the last time you've seen shampoo have sex?
[19:50] * BigRedPmp changes topic to '!rules | gay bashing = ban | http://sc.tri-bit.com/dswfb $2500.47'
[19:50] <cReDiAr> wb DarkFader
[19:50] <[DS]LynxW> And then gay sex on top of it.
[19:50] <Patater> fag hair? http://www.sptddog.com/sotp/hitler.jpg
[19:50] <[DS]LynxW> Who's bashing gays?
[19:50] <BigRedPmp> nobody... just playing it safe
[19:51] <Patater> hitler is bashing gays
[19:51] <[DS]LynxW> oh. ok..
[19:51] <cReDiAr> hitler is dead
[19:51] <Forza> no hes not
[19:51] <Patater> and this guy:$B!!(Bhttp://www.sptddog.com/sotp/black_bart.jpg
[19:51] <BigRedPmp> no, hitler is getting a pineapple rammed up his ass
[19:51] <Forza> he got really fat... got a tan and he moved to iraq
[19:51] <[DS]LynxW> Does that make him gay?
[19:51] <cReDiAr> wtf where do you find all those pics ?
[19:51] <Whacko> http://pics.nintendev.com/100_0334.JPG  me in my pink shirt :PP
[19:52] <Forza> patater image search of course
[19:52] <Patater> fag hair: http://www.desertbuilder.com/images/SFC042.jpg ?
[19:52] <TBBle> I was gonna show you the pink-bear Bundy ad, but it's not up on the website yet.
[19:52] <[DS]LynxW> That dude is gay for sure.. 
[19:52] <Patater> google images is nice
[19:52] <[DS]LynxW> :P
[19:52] <Patater> I could grab my pink shirt
[19:52] <Patater> I think I'll update patatercam
[19:53] <Patater> but with a special picture
[19:53] <[DS]LynxW> Naw.. we've seen enough pictures of gays already.. ;)
[19:53] <Patater> its gonna be special
[19:53] <Forza> http://www.videogameconnection.com/images/PSXtombabox.jpg
[19:53] <Forza> theirs your gay
[19:54] <Patater> ahaha
[19:54] <Patater> going after pigs
[19:54] <Whacko> [DS]LynxW: im not gay :P
[19:54] <Hoe```> Is this gay? http://red-stars.net/pictures/gay_robot_sex/gay_robot_sex.gif
[19:54] <[DS]LynxW> Whacko: Wow.. took you a whole 2 min to catch that one.. ;)
[19:55] <DarkFader> hi cReDiAr
[19:55] <[DS]LynxW> Forza: That's not gay.. that.. uhh.. what's it called..
[19:55] <Whacko> :P
[19:55] <[DS]LynxW> DarkFader: you know what CPLD is on GBA MP?
[19:55] * [DS]LynxW pokes natrium42
[19:55] <[DS]LynxW> Oh yeah.. beastiality.. or something like that..
[19:57] <Forza> lol
[19:57] <Patater> meh, can't find my pink shirt
[19:57] <Patater> I think my girlfriend took it
[19:57] <Whacko> :o
[19:57] <Patater> she didn't like me to wear it because it was too tight
[19:57] <Patater> it says "I make this shirt look good"
[19:58] <Patater> and its all pink and such
[19:58] <Whacko> :))
[19:59] <[DS]LynxW> Oh.. it'd look gay on this guy.. but you can pull it off.. ;)
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[19:59] <Forza> i got a white and pink "touch! DS" shirt. my gf doesnt like me wearing it she called me a "gay nerd"
[19:59] * [NDS] sets mode: +v Xray__
[19:59] <BigRedPmp> Xray__, you are in violation of #dsdev Rule #13 (no occupying this channel while occupying warez channels). You have 3 options, choose 1: (a) remove yourself from the channels in question, (b) remove yourself from this channel, (c) be removed. You have 5mins to comply.
[19:59] <DarkFader> [DS]LynxW: yeah. why? wanna reprogram?
[20:00] <Whacko> he wants to clone it i bet ;P
[20:00] <[DS]LynxW> natrium42 wanted to know.. and I believe that was the direction he was going..
[20:00] <[DS]LynxW> We were talking about SRAM and the iQue PassMe code..
[20:00] <DarkFader> ah
[20:00] <DarkFader> I get the idea :)
[20:00] <[DS]LynxW> because it requires SRAM.. so, what does the GBA MP do about it..
[20:00] <natrium42> :)
[20:00] <natrium42> use a flash page for the sram code
[20:01] <natrium42> anyway, i gotta run
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[20:01] <DarkFader> it's difficult to reprogram it
[20:01] <[DS]LynxW> Well. that just good timing.. :(
[20:01] <DarkFader> supercard is easier
[20:01] <DarkFader> but that already got sram
[20:01] <[DS]LynxW> Supercard already has SRAM support.
[20:01] <[DS]LynxW> Have you "created" direct CF access for the SuperCard yet?
[20:02] <DarkFader> I don't have a supercard-CF
[20:02] <DarkFader> so I can't test :)
[20:02] <pepsiman_> Have you "created" direct SD access for the SuperCard yet?
[20:02] <DarkFader> or perhaps I can do remote testing if someone has a FAL or something
[20:02] <DarkFader> nope
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[20:03] <pepsiman_> Have you "created" direct fs access for the G6 yet?
[20:03] * [NDS] sets mode: +v LiraNuna
[20:03] <DarkFader> lol
[20:03] <DarkFader> no
[20:03] <pepsiman_> M3?
[20:03] <DarkFader> no
[20:03] <pepsiman_> ;)
[20:03] <DarkFader> dammit
[20:03] <DarkFader> ;P
[20:03] <AmRoD> who has a supercard here ... my gba & ds aren't even seeing no gba cart inserted when i put my supercard in now but they still see my xrom and other cart ?
[20:03] <Whacko> Have you created anything of significance lately?
[20:03] <DarkFader> but it'd be nice to figure out that all
[20:03] <LiraNuna> can someone please explain me why should i wait for VBlank to get accurate touch input?
[20:03] <DarkFader> Whacko: a trojan! hah
[20:03] <Whacko> doh :(
[20:04] <DarkFader> AmRoD: your supercard got erased by the trojan? :)
[20:04] <AmRoD> could have ?
[20:04] <LiraNuna> lol
[20:04] <AmRoD> any way to reprogram it ?
[20:04] <DarkFader> sure there is
[20:04] <LiraNuna> kick it
[20:04] <LiraNuna> works every time
[20:05] <DarkFader> I'm adapting that gbamp flashing program
[20:05] <pepsiman_> flashing a supercard is easy... just undo your fly
[20:05] <AmRoD> dark - how can i fix it then?
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[20:05] <DarkFader> call supercard support hotline
[20:05] * [NDS] sets mode: +o dovZzzZ
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[20:05] <LiraNuna> lmao
[20:06] <LiraNuna> can someone please explain me why should i wait for VBlank to get accurate touch input?
[20:06] <[DS]LynxW> Uhh.. to get accurate touch input?
[20:06] <Patater> patatercam has new picture
[20:07] <AmRoD> so it's like a paperweight now ?
[20:07] <poffy> :D
[20:07] <[DS]LynxW> Cept most paperweights look nice..
[20:07] <Patater> and are heavy
[20:08] <davr> hehe, like the new PSPaperweight app...
[20:08] <Patater> it's more like a McDonald's happy meal toy supercard
[20:08] <Patater> it looks like the real thing, but it's just a toy
[20:08] <LiraNuna> [DS]LynxWL if i will not wait for vblank, i will get the previews touch coordinates
[20:09] <LiraNuna> and my code isn't to blame
[20:09] <davr> LiraNuna: on the arm7 or on the arm9?
[20:09] <LiraNuna> ARM9
[20:09] <davr> because if you are using the default arm7 binary, it only updates IPC->touch... during vblank
[20:09] <LiraNuna> i know that the touch input gets filled everyvblank
[20:09] <LiraNuna> can't we do it ever HBlank?
[20:09] <LiraNuna> it'll not slow things dhown
[20:09] <LiraNuna> *down
[20:10] <LiraNuna> VBlank isn't that fast for touch reading
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[20:12] <sc1> The fake romloader got discovered pretty quickly :|
[20:13] <LiraNuna> ?!
[20:13] <sc1> last night
[20:13] <sc1> darkfader created this romloader
[20:13] <sc1> that actually bricked DS
[20:13] <LiraNuna> =/
[20:14] <LiraNuna> so that's why my DS isn't working!
[20:14] <LiraNuna> i mean
[20:14] <LiraNuna> :P
[20:14] <LiraNuna> what do you mean by bricked?
[20:14] <[DS]LynxW> Uhhh... that's why this guy I know's DS isn't working.. :P
[20:14] <LiraNuna> how can you kill a DS by software?!
[20:15] <MithosAFK> Hey, r0mloader what else does it brick?
[20:15] <[DS]LynxW> Firmware?
[20:15] <LiraNuna> oooh
[20:15] <[DS]LynxW> I'm guessing.. but if they have a flashme'd version, they should be able to recover.. if not.. sucks for them..
[20:15] <LiraNuna> but.. you need to <blah> the SL1
[20:15] <[DS]LynxW> Only the first few blocks
[20:15] <LiraNuna> oh
[20:15] <[DS]LynxW> You can update the rest without shorting anything.
[20:16] <[DS]LynxW> I'm guessing that is what DF's r0mloader did..
[20:16] <LiraNuna> how can i.. i mean MY FRIEND recover this?
[20:16] <LiraNuna> joking
[20:16] <[DS]LynxW> I know..
[20:16] <MithosAFK> flash FlahME on gba-cart
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[20:16] <MithosAFK> press A+B+SELECT+START then boot DS
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[20:16] <[DS]LynxW> If "your friend" installed flashme, just use the the key combo to start it and reflash.. if they didn't.. bye bye..
[20:16] <LiraNuna> i was joking, i have nevr heared of this romloader
[20:17] <LiraNuna> nor my "friend"
[20:17] * LiraNuna is no romz0r
[20:17] <MithosAFK> It erase more then the DS firmware right?
[20:17] <MithosAFK> like supercard g6 m3 firmware ?
[20:17] <LiraNuna> i bought the DS for devving perposes only
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[20:18] <[DS]LynxW> Yeah.. but it's funny to talk about that way.. so I was going along with you..
[20:18] <Nikolas> you can always fix your DS with that DF's lpt gizmo
[20:18] <LiraNuna> lol
[20:18] <[DS]LynxW> Yeah.. that's an easy one..
[20:19] <Nikolas> lol
[20:19] <LiraNuna> damn, DF broke my... friend's DS!
[20:19] <Nikolas> or then just send it back to ninty :P
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[20:19] <LiraNuna> no nin in israel
[20:19] * MithosAFK wonders if you'll laugh as much when you have pissed of the wrong person and he search you up and lets you eat a bullet.
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[20:22] <AmRoD> can u reprogram the supercard via a gba cart programmer ?
[20:22] <LiraNuna> ?
[20:23] <AmRoD> the firmware
[20:23] <LiraNuna> i don't know anything about the supercard
[20:24] * Nikolas wonders who someone could feed bullets to someone if his throat is squshed
[20:25] * LiraNuna wonders if he exsists
[20:25] * Nikolas wonders that too
[20:25] <LiraNuna> wonder thife
[20:26] * pepsiman_ wonders how many typos there will be in a rwo
[20:26] <Nikolas> no I was wondering if you exist :P
[20:26] <[DS]LynxW> AmRoD: no
[20:26] <LiraNuna> i dotn hvae tpyos!
[20:27] <Nikolas> rol
[20:27] <Nikolas> fuck
[20:27] <Nikolas> rofl
[20:27] <pepsiman_> me niether
[20:27] <LiraNuna> thife
[20:28] * LiraNuna <-- don't mind that silly guy, he's just an idiot
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[20:30] <LiraNuna> i like rusty spoons
[20:30] <LiraNuna> i like to touch them
[20:30] <pepsiman_> nooo
[20:30] * [DS]LynxW agrees with LiraNuna
[20:30] <LiraNuna> lmao
[20:31] <LiraNuna> the feeling of rust against my salad fingers
[20:31] <LiraNuna> is almost orgasmic
[20:31] <LiraNuna> i must find the perfect spoon
[20:32] <LiraNuna> hello there young child
[20:32] * pepsiman_ kicks LiraNuna (flooding)
[20:32] <LiraNuna> i wonder why people thinks this series
[20:33] <LiraNuna> += is awful
[20:33] <eKid> i like it when the red water comes out ^_^
[20:33] <LiraNuna> XD
[20:33] <Furre> someone good with cellphones here?
[20:33] <Furre> cant get GRPS to work on mine :/
[20:34] <[DS]LynxW> Reboot it.. 
[20:34] <[DS]LynxW> (j/k)
[20:34] <Furre> ;x
[20:35] <pepsiman_> gprs sucks, don't bother
[20:35] <Furre> <.<
[20:36] <Furre> well itīs useful at times :x
[20:37] <LiraNuna> today i'm going to find france, because i have allways to go there
[20:39] <BigRedPmp> http://dsdev.bigredpimp.com/dstouchtest.avi - for wntr, unless others want to see as well ;)
[20:39] <BigRedPmp> and with that done, shower time
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[20:40] <BigRedPmp> I apologize in advance for my fat hand getting in the way :P
[20:41] <LiraNuna> BigRedPmp: do you have in-accurate touch readings too?
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[20:48] <BigRedPmp> yeah, that vid was from wntr's test app
[20:48] <cReDiAr> hmmm http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/g857Lh32.html , why doesn't that work :(
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[20:48] <cReDiAr> I already tried ORing every pixel with BIT(15) but didn work
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[20:50] <LiraNuna> BigRedPmp: it's cause of that ARM7 code
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[20:50] <BigRedPmp> which is what wntr is trying to fix
[20:51] <LiraNuna> i think he shuold read the touch every HBlank or half VBlank
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[20:52] <[DS]LynxW> LiraNuna: Who did I send a PassMe to that was helping you with graphics?
[20:52] <LiraNuna> ?
[20:52] <LiraNuna> i don't recall such an accation o_O
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[20:52] <[DS]LynxW> :(  You didn't have a "friend" on here, that you vouched for.. and I sent them a PassMe?
[20:53] <[DS]LynxW> I thought it was you.. 
[20:53] <LiraNuna> "friend" + "I sent them"
[20:54] <[DS]LynxW> Ok.. if none of this is ringing any bells.. then it must not have been you..
[20:54] <LiraNuna> doesn't makes sence
[20:54] <[DS]LynxW> Sure it does.. if you have a friend with a DS, that helps you do the graphics on this you code.. 
[20:54] <LiraNuna> you didn't got me
[20:54] <[DS]LynxW> but can't buy a PassMe, so I just sent them one.. to help out.. 
[20:54] <LiraNuna> "friend" + "I sent them"
[20:55] <[DS]LynxW> them = the friend.
[20:55] <SausageB> Look Liran, you're not in a position to argue with anyone about the english language
[20:55] <[DS]LynxW> and them is the word I used because I don't know if it's a HIM or HER..
[20:55] <pepsiman_> Jul 23 12:43:02 <LiraNuna>  RVman is my friend :D
[20:56] <[DS]LynxW> I think he is saying.. that he thinks "them" = the both, and he didn't get one from me..
[20:56] <LiraNuna> nvm that blah
[20:56] <LiraNuna> RVman doesn't do graphics
[20:56] <[DS]LynxW> Damn.. I guess I should have kept the e-mails..
[20:56] <[DS]LynxW> it wasn't RVman..
[20:56] <LiraNuna> Furre maybe?
[20:56] <[DS]LynxW> AHHH!
[20:56] <LiraNuna> he made graphics for me
[20:56] <[DS]LynxW> That sounds right..
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[20:56] <LiraNuna> but i didn't asked you to send anyone anything...
[20:56] <[DS]LynxW> Alsok knows as some 85 name or something?
[20:57] <Patater> this movie was crazy: http://www.japan-shock.com/eattheschoolgira.html
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[20:57] <LiraNuna> ufos85 ?
[20:57] <Patater> that's just the trailer, but the movie...
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[20:57] <BigRedPmp> off to work I go, bye all
[20:57] <[DS]LynxW> I didn't say you asked.. I said you vouched for them "meaing, they weren't just pretending to get a PassMe, you said you actually used them"
[20:57] <[DS]LynxW> See ya BigRedPmp
[20:57] <Patater> not safe for work, btw
[20:57] <Patater> violence
[20:58] <Patater> the translations on the dvd suck too
[20:58] <Patater> the worst subtitles I've ever seen
[20:58] <[DS]LynxW> Anyway.. LiraNuna.. You have contact info for Furre?
[20:58] <LiraNuna> nudity too
[20:58] <LiraNuna> he was here a sec ago
[20:58] <LiraNuna> !Seen Furre
[20:58] <[NDS]> LiraNuna, please look a bit closer at the memberlist of this channel.
[20:58] <LiraNuna> :)
[20:58] <Patater> !seen Furr*
[20:58] <[NDS]> Patater, I found 2 matches to your query: Furre, Furr. Furre (~ufot85@h8n1fls31o804.telia.com) was last seen joining #dsdev 2 days 7 hours 22 minutes ago (05.10. 03:52). Furre is still there.
[20:59] <LiraNuna> ...
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[20:59] <LiraNuna> he's still here
[20:59] * [NDS] sets mode: +v cheez0r
[20:59] <Patater> since 2 days 7 hours and 22 minutes ago
[20:59] <LiraNuna> he spoke a minute ago
[21:00] <DarkFader> hmm
[21:00] * DarkFader loads the trailer
[21:00] <LiraNuna> (21:36:24) (+Furre) well itīs useful at times :x
[21:00] <[DS]LynxW> I'm chatting with him now.. :P
[21:00] <LiraNuna> oh, ok
[21:00] <[DS]LynxW> Thanks.. :D
[21:00] <LiraNuna> np
[21:01] <DarkFader> Patater: know any good japanese movies I haven't seen yet?
[21:01] <LiraNuna> the flying castle
[21:01] <Patater> you seen any kurosawa?
[21:01] <cReDiAr> DarkFader: FF7 Advent Children
[21:02] <Patater> I liked "High and Low" from Kurosawa
[21:02] <Patater> he's directed so many movies
[21:02] <DarkFader> LiraNuna: laputa?
[21:02] <DarkFader> Patater: nope. any good?
[21:02] <Patater> oh yeah
[21:02] <Patater> seven samurai is good too
[21:02] <DarkFader> cReDiAr: I saw that
[21:02] <Patater> also, rashomon is awesome
[21:03] <cReDiAr> and is it good?
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[21:03] <Patater> I think seven samurai might be the number one rated movie on the internet movie database
[21:03] <DarkFader> cReDiAr: it's a lot of action
[21:03] <Patater> but not sure
[21:03] <Patater> I do know it had high ratings
[21:03] <LiraNuna> bye all
[21:03] <DarkFader> but it's good
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[21:04] <Patater> I liked the densha otoko drama
[21:04] <Patater> you should watch that, if you get around to it
[21:04] <Patater> many many jokes that are subtle
[21:07] <Patater> if you are into war documentary style movies, you could try riben guizi
[21:07] <DarkFader> I've heard of seven samurai but I skipped it because it was b/w
[21:08] <Patater> oh
[21:08] <Patater> well, so is high and low and rashomon
[21:08] <DarkFader> oh... but I did saw rashomon
[21:09] <Patater> don't ditch movies because they are bw. that's silly
[21:09] <DarkFader> true...
[21:09] <Patater> there are some weird movies out there
[21:10] <Patater> like tenshi no rakuen
[21:10] <Patater> about a dead porn star
[21:10] <Patater> just browsing through imdb
[21:10] <Patater> never saw it though
[21:10] <DarkFader> heh
[21:11] <Patater> My girlfriend has only seen two kurosawa movies
[21:11] <Patater> I can't remember which one she liked
[21:11] <Patater> I remember it was one of his color ones
[21:11] <Patater> I really liked high and low
[21:11] <DarkFader> "Densha Otoko is the true story of a young man who lives in Tokyo, but spends most of his life on his computer or shopping for anime character figurines."
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[21:11] <DarkFader> hmm
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[21:12] <StoneCybh> WRONG (huhu)
[21:12] <DarkFader> right....
[21:12] <Patater> she saw kagemusha and I'm thinking ran
[21:13] <Patater> I've been wanting to see ran for a while
[21:13] <Patater> but never got to it yet
[21:13] <StoneCybh> Patater: the one by kurosawa?
[21:13] <StoneCybh> it's delicious
[21:13] <Patater> yeah
[21:13] <Patater> my gf liked it a lot, if I'm remembering right
[21:13] <StoneCybh> get the criterion version; the non-criterion version cuts to normal aspect and makes *bad* choices
[21:13] <StoneCybh> yeah
[21:13] <StoneCybh> it's an adaptation of shakespeare
[21:13] <StoneCybh> much like throne of blood
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[21:14] <StoneCybh> or, arguably, the bride with white hair
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[21:14] <Patater> I was planning on getting the criterion one. It seemed the best
[21:14] <StoneCybh> well, in this particular case, it's borderline nessecary
[21:14] <Patater> wow
[21:15] <Patater> I prefer to watch movies in original aspect whenever I can
[21:15] <StoneCybh> the choices the non-criterion version makes are as bad as that asshat who made hamlet 
[21:15] <StoneCybh> what's his name
[21:15] <StoneCybh> kenneth brannaugh?
[21:15] <Patater> which hamlet?
[21:15] <SausageB> Shakespeare?
[21:15] <SausageB> heh :P
[21:15] <Patater> yeah
[21:15] <Patater> but which movie of it
[21:15] <StoneCybh> not the author, i mean the guy who made the film version in the early/mid 90s
[21:15] <SausageB> Yeah, I know
[21:15] <StoneCybh> and answered a bunch of unanswered questions
[21:15] <StoneCybh> which sets uncle fatty's blood to boil
[21:16] <StoneCybh> "hi, i'm kenneth brannaugh, i think i know shakespeare better than shakespeare"
[21:16] <StoneCybh> "also my career disappeared"
[21:16] <Patater> what is the boiling temperature of blood?
[21:16] <Patater> how thin does it get? or does it clot a lot?
[21:16] <StoneCybh> i dunno.
[21:16] <StoneCybh> it might cook.
[21:16] <StoneCybh> beef blood does.
[21:16] <Patater> blood sausages
[21:17] <Patater> darkfader: so yeah, those movies are good
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[21:17] <DarkFader> oh ok
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[21:18] <Patater> yup
[21:18] <StoneCybh> Patater: read my movie list!
[21:18] <StoneCybh> Patater: http://sc.tri-bit.com/Media_List
[21:19] <StoneCybh> granted it's several years out of date
[21:19] <StoneCybh> but if you dig kurosawa, there's other stuff in there you should see too
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[21:21] <sgstair> odd that nac split.
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[21:22] <DarkFader> too many nacks I guess
[21:23] <deftly> heh
[21:23] <DarkFader> or too few acks
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[21:24] <Furre> [DS]LynxW are you there?
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[21:25] <StoneCyph> Furre: did you know /whois foo foo tells you their idle time?
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[21:25] <pepsiman_> not always
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[21:26] <Furre> cant see idle on him atleast :x
[21:26] <pab|o> pepsiman_: where would I start a Paypal donations page to get you an M3 to develop for?
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[21:27] <pepsiman_> I'm busy with the g6 for now
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[21:29] <Furre> argh afk
[21:29] <Patater> Wolf 359...
[21:29] <Patater> waha, Blacksploitation
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[21:34] <MightyMax> servus
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[21:35] <Fleet-C> hello
[21:35] <cReDiAr> http://www.lik-sang.com/news.php?artc=3702 <-- lol
[21:36] <welshy> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/4318710.stm 
[21:36] <welshy> read that
[21:37] <cReDiAr> only if you read that ! http://www.lik-sang.com/news.php?artc=3700
[21:37] <welshy> jah but i allready read it
[21:37] <StoneCybh> who cares about psps or datel
[21:38] <cReDiAr> information is power
[21:38] <JaJa_> rofl. how can we kill the psp battery even faster?
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[21:39] <GPFerror> anyone know how to tell if a vblank has occurred since the last time I called a function?
[21:39] <Patater> it probably has
[21:40] <MightyMax> check for IPC->heartbeat
[21:40] <GPFerror> I was thinking about checking the IPC->heartbeat and comparing it to a saved value but im just getting 0
[21:40] <MightyMax> its raising in the std template each vblank
[21:40] <MightyMax> then the arm7 code doesnt run
[21:40] <Hoe```> Does any one know what I descrived in the \bm\ section of the page is a standard format? http://www.red-stars.net/content/Castlevania:_Dawn_of_Sorrow#File_System
[21:40] <GPFerror> do I have to use a combined template ?
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[21:41] <GPFerror> or can I use it with arm9 only?
[21:41] <GPFerror> default arm7
[21:41] <MightyMax> you could alternatively add a counter into the arm9 vblank handling too
[21:42] <GPFerror> yeah but then I
[21:42] <GPFerror> have to add vblank code to the lib and that might interfer with someone whos using the lib
[21:43] <MightyMax> hmm
[21:43] <GPFerror> maybe I have to initialize something to get the heartbeat started on the arm7?
[21:43] <StoneCybh> vblank has to be firing
[21:43] <StoneCybh> but why bother with that proprietary lib dependant bullshit
[21:43] <StoneCybh> just set a global volatile
[21:44] <MightyMax> hmm cant you use the vblank counter from the lcd ?
[21:45] <MightyMax> 0x04000004 - REG_DISPSTAT - General LCD Status (R/W)
[21:45] <GPFerror> that might work
[21:45] <StoneCybh> uh
[21:45] <StoneCybh> vcount is not a vblank counter
[21:45] <MightyMax> ohh ok
[21:45] <MightyMax> :p
[21:46] <StoneCybh> seriously, do you guys even read the docs?
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[21:46] <GPFerror> i could compare it to the number of frames if its less then last time it would work unless more then 1 vblank has occured since last time it was called
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[21:47] <StoneCybh> i mean
[21:48] <StoneCybh> vcount is only nine bits
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[21:48] <StoneCybh> at that size, it'd overflow every 8.5 seconds
[21:48] <StoneCybh> what good would that be
[21:48] <MightyMax> StoneCybh: i dont read docs if brainstorming just took a quick look
[21:48] <MightyMax> dont you do this sometimes ?
[21:48] <StoneCybh> no
[21:48] <MightyMax> so please calm down
[21:49] <StoneCybh> i'm not uncalm
[21:49] <MightyMax> you sound like that
[21:49] <StoneCybh> i'm not in the mood to be lambasted by a noob.
[21:49] <StoneCybh> go read what vcount has done since NES.
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[21:51] <LiraNuna> oh oh
[21:51] <StoneCybh> LiraNuna: what?
[21:51] * Luck|Chet :: Vanilla Ice - Ice Ice Baby *
[21:51] <Luck|Chet> ...
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[21:53] <Chetique> no comments.. scary
[21:53] <LiraNuna> Chetique = Chetic?
[21:53] <Chetique> No I'm some total stranger
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[21:54] <LiraNuna> hmm
[21:54] <LiraNuna> #guitarists #caraudio
[21:54] <LiraNuna> hmmmmm
[21:54] <Chetique> who could it be who could it be
[21:54] <LiraNuna> yeah... hmmmm
[21:54] <LiraNuna> heh
[21:54] <LiraNuna> ok Santa Clows, shows over
[21:55] <Chetique> I heard some people, like the French, like to pronounce 'que' in some words the same way as c
[21:55] <Chetique> That has no relation to anything btw
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[21:55] <Chetique> Hah, I knew it
[21:55] <LeeraNuna> i've heared that some people pronounce ee as i
[21:56] <Chetique> you're thinking reversed though :p
[21:56] <LeeraNuna> i know
[21:56] * LeeraNuna < bored
[21:56] <LeeraNuna> extend-your-nick day!
[21:56] <MightyMx> over way round, you english ee is pronounced as i :p
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[21:56] <MightyMx> *other
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[21:56] <Chetique> Is there a word for what you can call someone who has to pee?
[21:56] <LeeraNuna> in hebrew it's ee tho
[21:57] <dovZzzZ> can sound dma get data from gba cart? (i believe not)
[21:57] <LeeraNuna> dovZzzZ: dma 3 can
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[21:57] <dovZzzZ> that is not sound dma :)
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[21:57] <LeeraNuna> dma 3 has access to all ROM and RAM
[21:57] <Chetic> haha it was me all along
[21:57] <Chetic> :p
[21:57] <LeeraNuna> who! really?
[21:57] <dovZzzZ> each sound channel has a dma channel associated with it
[21:57] <LeeraNuna> *whoa
[21:58] <LeeraNuna> you mean 16 DMA channels?!
[21:58] <LeeraNuna> there are only 4!
[21:58] <dovZzzZ> well...24 if you are counting
[21:58] <dovZzzZ> but yes, 16
[21:58] <dovZzzZ> for sound
[21:58] <LeeraNuna> but... err... i mean.... blah
[21:59] <dovZzzZ> how else would you send streaming sound to 16 channels? ;)
[21:59] <LeeraNuna> software?
[21:59] <dovZzzZ> heh...oogly
[21:59] <LeeraNuna> where are thier addresses?
[21:59] <MightyMx> *g*
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[21:59] <LeeraNuna> i mean, control registers
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[21:59] <dovZzzZ> have you not done any direct sound playback?
[22:00] <LeeraNuna> i made a MOD and S3M player
[22:00] <LeeraNuna> didn't use any of the DMAs
[22:00] <LeeraNuna> O_O
[22:00] <dovZzzZ> uhm...how did you play the sample?
[22:00] <LeeraNuna> 1% CPU (ARM7) usge tho :D
[22:00] <cReDiAr> :o
[22:00] * LeeraNuna loves MODs
[22:00] <Chetic> Somebody needs to start using filesystems
[22:00] <dovZzzZ> you used the dma channel..you just did not realize it :)
[22:00] <Chetic> hint hint
[22:01] <cReDiAr> anyone knows how much %CPU the spc player needs ?
[22:01] <LeeraNuna> Chetic: shut up, i'm busy to my head
[22:01] <LeeraNuna> sunday is my SAT day!
[22:01] <Chetic> well that's what you get for taking on five billion projects :p
[22:01] <Chetic> oh yeah, that too :p
[22:01] <dovZzzZ> for sound you set the timer, the start address, and the length (and all the little things)
[22:01] <cReDiAr> LeeraNuna is the player open source
[22:01] <dovZzzZ> and the channel grabs the sample Directly from Memory
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[22:01] <LeeraNuna> cReDiAr: i will make it a MOD/S3M/XM/IT/MO3 player
[22:02] <LeeraNuna> and then i will release it as a librery
[22:02] <dovZzzZ> leera that would be sweet
[22:02] <cReDiAr> cool
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[22:02] <LiraNuna> :P
[22:02] <Chetic> and somebody could make it work with gbamp :o
[22:02] <LiraNuna> i might charge for it :P
[22:02] <dovZzzZ> anyway, can you stream sound from the gba cart?
[22:02] <LiraNuna> i think so
[22:02] <LiraNuna> DMAs should use any ROM or RAM
[22:02] <buZz`> mba2 :P
[22:02] <buZz`> by neimod__ 
[22:02] <dovZzzZ> lira you can not really (unless you just target homebrewers
[22:02] <dovZzzZ> )
[22:03] <LiraNuna> you miht be right
[22:03] <LiraNuna> *might
[22:03] <dovZzzZ> N wont let third party sound libs without some hefty oversite, licensing etc...
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[22:03] <dovZzzZ> gba you can though
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[22:04] <LiraNuna> bleh
[22:04] <LiraNuna> and i thought i could get that small money
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[22:04] <LiraNuna> 10$ for a lib
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[22:04] <Ixthus_> wtf? who was gay bashing?
[22:04] <dovZzzZ> you could charge 5 or 10 and sell a few
[22:05] <cReDiAr> anyone knows how to use bmps as sprites ? (15bit color of course)
[22:05] <dovZzzZ> i would buy it for 10 if it was any good
[22:05] <LiraNuna> 1% CPU usges (ARM7) while playing a 32ch MOD
[22:05] <dovZzzZ> cReDiAr it is 16 bit color and there are examples in libnds
[22:05] <dovZzzZ> lira good = quality :)
[22:05] <cReDiAr> they didn't help me :(
[22:05] <LiraNuna> 32,000Hz :D
[22:05] <dovZzzZ> you load the data and set the pits and it goes :)
[22:05] <cReDiAr> there is only one example and it just fills it with one color
[22:05] <LiraNuna> didn't you hear my S3M player?
[22:05] <cReDiAr> and when I fill it with a pic the sprite stays black
[22:06] <LiraNuna> cReDiAr: 15th bit!!!!!111oneoeone
[22:06] <dovZzzZ> cReDiAr !^ bit
[22:06] <dovZzzZ> 16
[22:06] <LiraNuna> why not just ORing it with (1<<15) ?
[22:06] <cReDiAr> don't worry
[22:07] <cReDiAr> I tried that
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[22:07] <LiraNuna> no idea then
[22:07] <cReDiAr> didn't work :(
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[22:08] <GPFerror> http://gpf.dcemu.co.uk/files/SuperMarioWarDS.rar ok new version up if someone could test it please
[22:08] <LiraNuna> my DS is up, sorry :(
[22:09] <cReDiAr> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/g857Lh32.html
[22:09] <LiraNuna> dovZzzZ: so why did krawal got authorized to sell it's lib?
[22:09] <LiraNuna> i think MO3 player would be awsome
[22:10] <LiraNuna> the max CPU % i got is 1% in 32ch MOD :D
[22:11] * LiraNuna is a l33t coder (??)
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[22:11] <LiraNuna> or just bored
[22:11] <GPFerror> write me some sound streaming code :)
[22:11] <cReDiAr> GPFerror: I'll try it
[22:11] <LiraNuna> i'm working from the ARM7 side
[22:12] <LiraNuna> no need for streaming
[22:12] <LiraNuna> but there is a communication between them
[22:12] <LiraNuna> *the two proccessors
[22:12] <GPFerror> yeah i know all the theory Im just lost on the actually implementation :)
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[22:13] <cReDiAr> GPFerror: loaded and ready
[22:13] <cReDiAr> are you using the PA lib ?
[22:13] <LiraNuna> GPFerror: make a pointer to the stram, and the ARM9 will "fill" the buffer by a volatile sizd
[22:13] <GPFerror> no im using SDL
[22:13] <LiraNuna> *size
[22:14] <cReDiAr> it's a bit slow
[22:15] <GPFerror> but dpad is working good?
[22:15] <LiraNuna> GPFerror: i can write a pseodu code for it
[22:15] <LiraNuna> if you'r intrested
[22:15] <Forza> i bought nano stray today... i beat it in 1 hour :(
[22:15] <cReDiAr> yes GPFerror
[22:15] <LiraNuna> yeah, Forza, it's an impressive game but it's short ;_;
[22:15] <GPFerror> yeah that would be cool LiraNuna
[22:15] <LiraNuna> GPFerror: on it
[22:15] <GPFerror> thanks
[22:16] <Forza> i finished the first 3 worlds and im like 37% complete?!
[22:16] <Forza> well i did play it on normal
[22:16] <Forza> i'll try next difficulty
[22:17] * cReDiAr needs to get bmp sprites working
[22:17] <dovZzzZ> boss walked by..anyway
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[22:17] <Chetic> hooray, capital H
[22:17] <dovZzzZ> the reason you can not do DS sound lib commercialy is because N has tight control over the arm7 binary
[22:18] <dovZzzZ> commercial devers cant touch the arm7 except through the supplied interface
[22:18] <buZz`> but you could replace arm7 binary?
[22:18] <dovZzzZ> this might be an fcc requirement
[22:18] <LiraNuna> bleh
[22:18] <LiraNuna> :(
[22:19] <LiraNuna> so i'll sell it to homebrewns
[22:19] * Chetic gets sleepy from dovZzzZ's nick
[22:19] <Headspin> wake up dovoto!!
[22:19] <GPFerror> hi Headspin
[22:19] <Headspin> hey GPF :)
[22:20] <GPFerror> any luck on those irq's :)
[22:20] <Headspin> btw i actually never got the timers to work lol
[22:20] <Headspin> i thought i did, but i didnt
[22:20] <GPFerror> lol yeah me neither
[22:20] <Ixthus_> GPF isn't spreading Darkfader's virus right? ;)
[22:20] <Chetic> What virus?
[22:21] <DarkFader> see?! nobody even knows ;P
[22:21] <LiraNuna> GPFerror : http://rafb.net/paste/results/LgHAKN74.html
[22:21] <LiraNuna> it's VERY simple
[22:21] <Headspin> man, i dont know that wintermute did with the new lib, but its fucking impossible to get timers to work now lol
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[22:21] <Chuck`> hi LiraNuna
[22:21] <LiraNuna> after dovoto tole me about those DMAs, i can get an almost 0ed speed :D
[22:22] <Chuck`> how's the uh thing coming around?
[22:22] <LiraNuna> hey Chuck
[22:22] <Chuck`> i mean how's egga?
[22:22] <dovZzzZ> lira not with 32 channels :)
[22:22] <LiraNuna> dad
[22:22] <Chuck`> i'm a little lethargig today
[22:22] <LiraNuna> dovZzzZ: i'm mizing ;)
[22:22] <dovZzzZ> my mod player was pretty much 0%
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[22:22] <LiraNuna> *mixing
[22:22] * [NDS] sets mode: +v CapnSoup
[22:22] <Chuck`> can't even spell it
[22:22] <Chuck`> LiraNuna dead?
[22:22] <dovZzzZ> although it sounds like crap
[22:22] <LiraNuna> yeah
[22:22] <LiraNuna> like my PC
[22:22] <Chuck`> ouch
[22:22] <Chuck`> HD crash?
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[22:22] <CapnSoup> Hey, all.
[22:22] <LiraNuna> dovZzzZ: my player works on a 32,000 Hz
[22:22] <LiraNuna> Chuck`: GPU overheated
[22:23] <Chuck`> good god
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[22:23] <LiraNuna> :()
[22:23] <LiraNuna> *:(
[22:23] <Chetic> DarkFader, what have you done? >:o
[22:23] <LiraNuna> PassMe2?
[22:23] <Chetic> no, virii :p
[22:23] <Headspin> wintermute needs to place an example in libnds that shows us how to use timers with the new lib. Since I got them working no problem with ndslib I blame him for my new problems lol :)
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[22:24] <LiraNuna> anyone have heared from loopy_ something recently?
[22:24] <Chuck`> something must be in DF's water table
[22:24] <Chuck`> !seen loopy_
[22:24] <[NDS]> Chuck`, loopy_ (loopy@c-24-10-251-196.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) was last seen quitting #dsdev 17 hours 54 minutes ago (06.10. 18:46) stating "" after spending 1 hour 32 minutes there.
[22:24] <Chetic> he seems to be entirely busy with school, LiraNuna
[22:24] <LiraNuna> oh, ok
[22:24] <Chetic> and possibly a dash of some sweet laziness
[22:24] * Chetic is filled with it
[22:25] <LiraNuna> maybe i'll port Snes9x in my free time
[22:25] <Ixthus_> he was here yesterday
[22:25] <LiraNuna> just to play CT
[22:25] <Chetic> hah, another project :p
[22:25] <Chuck`> work on egga
[22:25] <LiraNuna> yep, changing them lick sucks
[22:25] <Chuck`> i'd like to play sonic
[22:25] <LiraNuna> *socks
[22:25] <Chetic> like*
[22:25] <Headspin> you cant replace loopy, you just cant.. even with look alike furniture you cantr
[22:25] <Chetic> lick socks, mm :p
[22:25] <LiraNuna> Chuck`: sound it working btw
[22:25] <Chuck`> sound it working?
[22:25] <Ixthus_> I dunno, I found quite a convincing ottoman
[22:26] <Chuck`> two subjects in one sentence = confusing
[22:26] <LiraNuna> yep, high quality stereo too
[22:26] <LiraNuna> *is
[22:26] <LiraNuna> =/
[22:26] <Chuck`> doh
[22:26] <Headspin> lmao ottoman.. thats an aussie thing right?
[22:26] <Ixthus_> hehe
[22:26] <Chuck`> i thought egga was dead?
[22:26] <Chuck`> does it play sonice?
[22:26] <LiraNuna> i meant
[22:26] <LiraNuna> nothing recently
[22:26] <LiraNuna> cause my PC is dead
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[22:26] <Chuck`> have you tried Sonic the Hedgehog on it?
[22:26] <LiraNuna> i can't code for now
[22:27] <LiraNuna> yeah, tiles are a mess, sprites are awsome, sound is awsome
[22:27] <Chuck`> wow it's pretty bad when you check your OWN web site for updates
[22:27] <LiraNuna> i suck at graphics, awsome in sound
[22:27] <LiraNuna> roflmao
[22:27] <Ixthus_> so what's up with the topic? who was gay bashing?
[22:27] <Chuck`> you think it's your business to know?
[22:27] <LiraNuna> quoting BigRedPimp : "ignore it, just some random crap"
[22:28] <Ixthus_> roflmouse?
[22:28] <LiraNuna> roflcopter!
[22:28] <Ixthus_> roflmao ze dong?
[22:28] <Chuck`> lollerskates
[22:28] <LiraNuna> lollypop
[22:28] <Chuck`> http://luelinks.net/ad2.gif
[22:28] * Chuck` dies from a seizure.
[22:28] <LiraNuna> MY EYES!!!!!1
[22:29] <LiraNuna> oneoenoenone
[22:29] <Headspin> my eyes my beautiful eyes
[22:29] <Ixthus_> THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING!
[22:29] <Chuck`> beautiful? check that
[22:29] <Chetic> hah
[22:29] <Chetic> Ze goggles do nawzing
[22:29] <LiraNuna> Headspin: any chance you will optimize the jpeg viewer of yours?
[22:29] <Headspin> um they look beautiful to me.. mmmm yep there beautiful
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[22:30] <Chuck`> i'd bash but it's bannable now
[22:30] <Headspin> LiraNuna: that jpeg viewer isn't mine it's Burton Radons as I state clearly on my site.. and ive never spoken to the guy
[22:31] <LiraNuna> oh, sorry for that
[22:31] <Headspin> I just changed it to work for DS.. 
[22:31] <Chuck`> link?
[22:31] <LiraNuna> !Google headspin nds
[22:31] <DSDEVr> Google says: http://www.neoflash.com/
[22:31] <Headspin> http://headkaze.webpal.info/
[22:31] <LiraNuna> o_O
[22:31] <Chetic> lol
[22:31] <Chuck`> neo flahsh?
[22:31] <LiraNuna> wtF?!
[22:31] <Chuck`> probably cuz you link to them on your site
[22:31] <Chuck`> you're boosting their page rank above and beyond your own
[22:31] <Chetic> LiraNuna's first time using google
[22:32] <LiraNuna> erm... no
[22:32] <Headspin> btw i havn't recieved my prize from the neoflash comp yet grumble grumble
[22:32] <Chuck`> ouch
[22:32] <LiraNuna> yeah, don't worry, they are having problems with the MK2
[22:32] <LiraNuna> PBCs were wrong
[22:32] <Headspin> yeah i hear... "PCB probs"
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[22:33] <Chuck`> i'm very hungry and very tired
[22:33] <Chuck`> should i eat or sleep first?
[22:33] <Ixthus_> sleep
[22:33] <LiraNuna> i will eat for you
[22:33] <Chuck`> heh
[22:33] <Headspin> !Google headspin nds
[22:33] <DSDEVr> Google says: http://www.neoflash.com/
[22:33] <Forza> !topic
[22:33] <DarkFader> /topic #dsdev !rules | gay bashing = ban | http://sc.tri-bit.com/dswfb $2500.47
[22:33] <Chuck`> !rules
[22:33] <BigRedPmp> #dsdev rules are at http://gbadev.tri-bit.com/
[22:33] <Headspin> whaaa
[22:34] <Forza> I <3 gays
[22:34] * pepsiman_ kills sgstair
[22:34] <Chetic> the sarcasm-meter is off the chart
[22:34] <Chuck`> give the guy a break
[22:35] <pepsiman_> sgstair is now dead, therefore cannot counterattack!!!!
[22:35] <pepsiman_> You gain 2 frag(s) (1 stolen).
[22:35] <Chuck`> doh
[22:35] <Chuck`> i'm already bored of that
[22:35] <Headspin> sgstair kills pepsiman through ds wifi lol
[22:35] <Chuck`> but it was pretty fun beating up sgstair
[22:35] * LiraNuna kills pepsiman_. experience gained : 1053
[22:36] <pepsiman_> TheChuckster is now dead, therefore cannot counterattack!!!!
[22:36] <pepsiman_> You gain 1 frag(s) (0 stolen).
[22:36] * Headspin wonders if pepsiman is waiting for wifi hack for DSLinux???
[22:36] <pepsiman_> yep
[22:36] <Chuck`> i was going to write a cron script to attack 4 targets every 3 hours
[22:36] <pepsiman_> me too :)
[22:36] <LiraNuna> pepsiman_ is playing an RPG therefor can not die now, please go away
[22:36] <Chuck`> but it didn't work because wget does do cookis
[22:36] <Chuck`> *cookies
[22:37] <Chuck`> wait yes it does
[22:37] <Chuck`> Lo
[22:37] <Headspin> i was gonna say.. dslinux was a bit dead lately.. but wifi will breathe new life into the project
[22:37] <Chuck`> :o
[22:37] <pepsiman_> wget --load-cookies
[22:37] <Chuck`> a gui would too!
[22:37] <Chuck`> yes i just googled
[22:37] <Chuck`> open source programs do everything
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[22:37] <Chuck`> what was i thinking?!
[22:37] <pepsiman_> but it's easier to use WWW:Mechanise in perl
[22:37] * [NDS] sets mode: +v nyx-
[22:38] <Headspin> linux without networking is like female with no breasts ... um useless ;)
[22:38] <pepsiman_> there's still the ass
[22:38] <Headspin> there is still the command line ;)
[22:38] <LiraNuna> Headspin: may i use your keyboard in WinDS?
[22:38] <Chuck`> i used linux w/o networking for 6 months
[22:39] <Chuck`> winmodem and 56k
[22:39] <Headspin> LiraNuna: I would be most happy for you to use it.. thats what its for :)
[22:39] <GPFerror> LiraNuna with your example on the arm9 side how do I know when I need to refill the buffer?
[22:39] <LiraNuna> GPFerror
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[22:39] <LiraNuna> GPFerror: timers
[22:39] <pepsiman_> Thoop counterattacks with a 8mm Pistol (5 str) and and misses!
[22:40] <LiraNuna> do you know anything about sound?
[22:40] <Headspin> actually i have some nicer keyboard skins but im a bit lazy lately
[22:40] <LiraNuna> calc Hz and use the streamSize as overflow checker,
[22:41] <LiraNuna> Headspin: thank you
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[22:43] <Ixthus_> <+Headspin> linux without networking is like female with no breasts ... um useless ;) <-- does that count as gay-bashing? ;)
[22:44] <pepsiman_> no
[22:44] <LunarC> what does that have to do with homosexuals?
[22:44] <Ixthus_> nevermind you don't get it Lunar
[22:45] <GPFerror> MightyMx heres what I ended up using     dc=DISP_Y;if (dc <ldc){scanKeys();ldc=dc;} close enough to a vblank counter 
[22:45] <Headspin> not unless gay people have breasts which i doubt very much...
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[22:45] <GPFerror> Headspin did you see liranuna's pseudo code for sound streaming http://rafb.net/paste/results/LgHAKN74.html
[22:46] <GPFerror> but still need to figure out the timers lol
[22:46] <Headspin> if we can get wintermute to debug the timer code I think we
[22:46] <Headspin> 'd be in business
[22:47] <GPFerror> that would be good, didnt he update the interupt code for multiple interupts since last release or something like that?
[22:48] <Chetic> <Headspin> not unless gay people have breasts which i doubt very much... <-can't females be gay too? :p
[22:48] <Headspin> dunno, i cant possibly keep up with the latest libnds without obtaining whiplash
[22:49] <Headspin> chetic: gay women need extra love care and attention.. and im willing to give them that
[22:49] <GPFerror> yeah after getting into trouble with unreleased toolchain matched with cvs, I switch to devkitupdater only :)
[22:49] <Chetic> lol :p
[22:50] <Headspin> cvs = aneurysm.. i keep away
[22:54] <poffy> Where I can find a list of VRAM and such? Like, VRAM_C_SUB_BG
[22:55] <LunarC> video.h
[22:56] <Headspin> god gave you search now you go and use it.. god be with you
[22:57] <Headspin> what happened to stonecyph, firefly, darkfader, darkain etc.? have they left the scene or what?
[22:58] <poffy> ok, what memory bank do I need to display framebuffer shapes on the SUB screen?
[22:59] <DeskGone> mode 5, and a vram as bg sub
[22:59] <DeskGone> and also, there are not sub screen, just sub engine.
[22:59] <DeskGone> the screens are swappable.
[23:02] <Headspin> the banks also depend on the size of your graphics.. 8bit 16bit etc.. right?
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[23:04] <GPFerror> heading home, see ya all later
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[23:04] <Headspin> i think each bank has $20000 bytes
[23:04] <DeskGone> Headspin: well, it depends on how much size you use, but you use the same banks
[23:05] <DeskGone> a-d are the same size, the others are various.
[23:06] <DarkFader> Headspin: looking for me?
[23:06] <DarkFader> I'm just busy at daytime... that's all
[23:06] <Headspin> man, im so pissed about FrodoDS.. I want that emu to work !!
[23:06] <Headspin> DarkFader :)
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[23:07] <Headspin> Well, its nice to see some classic hackers are still alive.. what happened to firefly?
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[23:07] <motonen> hello
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[23:07] <dovZzzZ> headspin the first 4 banks are 128KB, the rest vary
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[23:07] <motonen> im flashing my ds
[23:07] * [NDS] sets mode: +v ZeZu
[23:07] <Headspin> nothing worse than an exit without releasing the source ;)
[23:07] <dovZzzZ> motonen hello and cool
[23:07] <motonen> do i need to convert flasme.nds to ds.gba  ?
[23:08] <motonen> im using gba cart and wifime
[23:08] <dovZzzZ> no...i think it is the newer form of .nds with the built in loader
[23:08] <Headspin> dovoto: yeah so $20000 is right then ;)
[23:08] <dovZzzZ> yes but only for the first 4 banks
[23:08] <motonen> it doesnt run
[23:09] <motonen> flasme.nds in my gba cart and using wifime
[23:09] <dovZzzZ> have not used wifime much
[23:09] <dovZzzZ> does the screen go white?
[23:09] <Headspin> thanks dovoto :) although the rest arn't defined in libnds or are they?
[23:09] <motonen> yes
[23:09] <dovZzzZ> head of course they are
[23:09] <motonen> screens go white
[23:11] <dovZzzZ> motonen that meens wifime is working which is good
[23:11] <dovZzzZ> you need to verify your flash software is not changing your nds file as it writes it
[23:11] <motonen> hmm, and how i do that?
[23:12] <Headspin> the extra banks would only be for 512x512+ textures or some shit?
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[23:13] <dovZzzZ> head: http://www.drunkencoders.com/documents/DS/ndslib.htm#_VRAM_Defines:  <--these names should still be the same
[23:13] <dovZzzZ> and for usage: http://www.drunkencoders.com/documents/DS/ndslib.htm#_VRAM
[23:13] <dovZzzZ> i imagine some of the defines have changed
[23:14] <Headspin> dovoto: I always preferred ndslib over libnds.. is there a battle between you and wintermute over what should and shouldnt be??
[23:14] <dovZzzZ> libnds IS ndlib...i am not sure what there is to prefer
[23:14] <Thoop> Thoop attacked pepsiman with a Grenade Launcher (52 str) and took off 61!
[23:14] <Thoop> pepsiman has 0 HP left!
[23:15] <dovZzzZ> only difference WAS some files were moved in libnds.  But i just maintain libnds directly now
[23:15] <Headspin> well.. i look at the interrupt stuff and i go.. why? why?
[23:15] <dovZzzZ> whats wrong with the new interupt stuff?
[23:15] <dovZzzZ> i have not used it
[23:15] <Headspin> well.. look at it.. it dont work for a start lol..
[23:15] <Headspin> timers dont work no more as far as i can see
[23:15] <dovZzzZ> heh..that seems unlikely but if so probably should fix that
[23:16] <dovZzzZ> i will look at it tonight when i get back from school
[23:16] <Headspin> but what im asking there was fighting going on between you lot though wasnt there?
[23:16] <dovZzzZ> hmm...gba compo cart manuals finaly arrived.  wonder if that means they are close to mailing them
[23:16] <dovZzzZ> not that i know of :)
[23:16] * dovZzzZ kicks WntrMute in the nads
[23:16] <dovZzzZ> now there is!~
[23:17] <Headspin> lol
[23:18] <Chuck`> the beat rockin
[23:19] <Headspin> btw dovoto: CONGRATULATIONS!!!
[23:19] <dovZzzZ> thanks :)
[23:19] <Headspin> I wanna get a t-shirt like yours too... damn i want one bad.. expect and order soon :)
[23:19] <arog> dovZzzZ: check out your site  ;)
[23:20] <dovZzzZ> hehe, that shirt rocks
[23:20] <motonen> why that flashme.nds dont run :(
[23:20] <Headspin> drunken coders was a nice change of name... geez i cant even remember the old name now.. what was is some shit backwards or summit?
[23:20] <arog> pern project
[23:21] <arog> nin rev eng pro?
[23:21] <dovZzzZ> yep
[23:21] <arog> proj*
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[23:21] * Chuck` loves trance music
[23:21] <Headspin> ahhh dats it... reverse um... nintendo.. um summit
[23:21] <dovZzzZ> am i looking at the gba cable?
[23:21] <arog> well, moreso the fact that it's GBA-related  ;)
[23:22] <arog> more on the way in the next few mins...
[23:22] <Headspin> I am sooooooooo gonna get that f**kin t-shirt... :)
[23:22] <dovZzzZ> arog :) awesome i allready edited it so it would have a gba icon
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[23:23] <motonen> what i do wrong? have flashed flashme.nds in my gba cart. using my wifime. choosing download&play wifime... and i got just white screen...??
[23:23] <arog> oooh
[23:23] * dovZzzZ splits druncencoder proffits with arog
[23:23] <arog> ooops, it says GBA in that drop down list... never used that before
[23:23] <dovZzzZ> heh :)
[23:23] <arog> put my proffits into the compo prize lock box thingee
[23:23] <Headspin> dovoto: whats it like to be a father?
[23:24] <arog> again
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[23:24] <motonen> anyone can help?
[23:24] <dovZzzZ> arog cool...that is what i was planning on doing with it anyway...although my site does not generate enough revinew to cover hosting at the moment
[23:24] <dovZzzZ> motonen try one of the ds.gba roms to make sure your flash cart is working
[23:25] <motonen> its working....
[23:25] <dovZzzZ> there should be lots of them on www.ndshb.com
[23:25] <arog> dovZzzZ: i will prolly be gone for the weekend, so i'll leave posting up to you :P
[23:25] <Headspin> dovoto: sorry about all the questions.. but I'm really jealous.. I wanna have a son!!!
[23:26] <arog> yeah, i don't really do this for the $$$, so i don't care
[23:26] <dovZzzZ> head it was my third so not too much different.  But being a father is great
[23:26] <Headspin> waaaa! Third? cool!
[23:26] <dovZzzZ> arog cool, i should have some time to update this weekend.  I may do a bit of content as well
[23:26] <dovZzzZ> need to add some html to go with my nehe
[23:27] <dovZzzZ> i think libnds might be stable enough to start tutorials..maybe
[23:28] <arog> yay!
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[23:28] <Headspin> stupid question: I wish I could get a shirt that just said "Drunken Coder" with the beer spilling logo lol
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[23:28] <dovZzzZ> head might be arranged
[23:28] <dovZzzZ> i would have to talk to my artist but have not seen him in a long time
[23:28] <Headspin> dude if you do that.. please let me know cos I am gonna order a shirt soon anyways
[23:28] <arog> did everyone see the 2004mbit manuals are in and simonb says shipping should begin soon?!  http://www.gbadev.org/
[23:29] <Headspin> um yeah we know that lol
[23:29] <dovZzzZ> arog did not see the "shipping soon" part but yah :)
[23:30] <arog> about friggin' time
[23:30] <arog> almost 2006 now
[23:30] <arog> :)
[23:30] <dovZzzZ> heh
[23:31] <dovZzzZ> i have a game idea i am going to work on this weekend too
[23:31] <LunarC> why aren't the BG_BMP_RAM (etc) defines casted to u16*?
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[23:31] <dovZzzZ> lunar what are they casted to? anything?
[23:31] <motonen> dovZzzZ, hornetDS.ds.gba is running great
[23:31] <LunarC> nope
[23:31] <Headspin> and *some people* said simonb was full of it... 
[23:31] <LunarC> nothing
[23:31] <dovZzzZ> should be nothing probably
[23:31] <dovZzzZ> hard to say what type of pointer you want
[23:32] <dovZzzZ> oh...bmp
[23:32] <dovZzzZ> maybe not :)
[23:32] <arog> yeah StoneCypher really trashed him
[23:32] <Headspin> i think stonecyph should apologise now ;)
[23:32] <LunarC> what would you use it as other than u16*?
[23:32] <dovZzzZ> motonen hmm
[23:32] <dovZzzZ> well i guess try to convert it to ds.gba
[23:32] <motonen> how can i convert it?
[23:32] <deltro2> Gay Bashing?
[23:33] <Headspin> gays dont need bashing they need love.. um yeah
[23:33] <dovZzzZ> dsbuild %1 -o %1.gba  <--my .nds to .ds.gba bat file
[23:33] <motonen> k
[23:33] <motonen> gonna try
[23:33] <dovZzzZ> k
[23:33] <deltro2> Is that making fun of gay people? Or making fun of people who you couldn't possibly know are gay or not using the term gay?
[23:34] <dovZzzZ> making fun of
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[23:34] <dovZzzZ> not sure where the topic originated from
[23:34] <LunarC> deltro2, probably not good to do either. . .
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[23:34] <deltro2> I don't have any problem with gay people.
[23:34] <deltro2> But habitually I use it as in insult, it's simple, not too offensive, and for the most part people are offended by it.
[23:34] <LunarC> because if you use the term gay as an insult to something, it's very easy to offend people for whom it has real meaning =/
[23:35] <Headspin> I'm making fun of people who think that they arn't gay but associate with gays to fullfill the emptyness in their lives.. so I'm gay friend uncle auntie sister bashing
[23:35] <arog> StoneCypher doesn't have to apologize until i actually get my (working) cartridge in the mail
[23:35] <deltro2> Lol, your so crazy.
[23:35] <dovZzzZ> i call things gay all the time *shrugs*
[23:35] <dovZzzZ> arog :)
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[23:36] <arog> i live in san francisco.  no one cares if you're gay or not.  :)
[23:36] <arog> i really got sick of playing on xbox live though, 'cause "fag" etc was every other word out of those kids' mouth
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[23:36] <arog> :(
[23:36] <Headspin> things are often gay.. not that there is anything wrong with that
[23:36] <Ixthus_> Headspin, I guess that's... gay-adjacent bashing?
[23:36] <Ixthus_> homo-adjacent?
[23:37] <arog> dovZzzZ: you should be making some $$$ on your site btw.  considering the amount of traffic.  i just don't know how you should be making it!
[23:37] <dovZzzZ> arog should yes :)
[23:37] <Headspin> no.. just adolesent pre-mature unadulterated gay bashing
[23:37] <motonen> blah.. dovZzzZ, can you convert this http://ds.gcdev.com/dsfirmware/flashme.nds for me, please? :)
[23:37] <dovZzzZ> i put up google adds yesterday
[23:37] <arog> it has to be the #1 nds dev website... thanks to me ;)
[23:38] <arog> did you get it working right?
[23:38] <dovZzzZ> arog we need a sponser
[23:38] * arog never sees ads in firefox... thanks no-ads.pac
[23:38] <dovZzzZ> arog seems to be...google is tracking it
[23:38] <dovZzzZ> ahh..firefox
[23:38] <dovZzzZ> not a fan of add-blockers
[23:38] <Headspin> drunkencoders = farkin wicked site!!!
[23:38] <Ixthus_> no?
[23:38] <arog> WHAT????????!!!!!!!!!
[23:38] <LunarC> me neither, except those nasty popups =P
[23:38] <dovZzzZ> pop-up blockers are good
[23:39] <dovZzzZ> add-blockers are almost theft :(
[23:39] <Headspin> If you all dont get a drunken coders t-shirt soon then I will disown you all lol
[23:39] <arog> Headspin: you're just saying that 'cause i post stuff about your site all the time.  :P
[23:39] <arog> listen, i have google ads on my site, but i wouldn't recommend that anyone <i>actually</i> look at them!
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[23:40] <Headspin> arog: well, it helps a little i guess.. te he :)
[23:40] <dovZzzZ> google adds are good, they are generaly pretty well targeted
[23:40] <dovZzzZ> i click on sgstair everytime...somehow he allways has cool stuff in them
[23:40] <arog> well anyway, this is another religious war not worth starting... at least not without SC here  :P
[23:41] <arog> i am gonna head out for the weekend soon.  may be around if there's wireless or st
[23:41] <arog> :)
[23:41] <dovZzzZ> :)
[23:41] <Ixthus_> :)
[23:41] <CapnSoup> :|
[23:41] <arog> |:
[23:42] <natriumAw> /:=)
[23:42] <CapnSoup> d:
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[23:43] * dovZzzZ wonders if there is an image library for managed code
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[23:44] <Headspin> O_o
[23:44] <DeskGone> dovZzzZ: .net?
[23:44] <dovZzzZ> yes
[23:44] <dovZzzZ> .net == da shit
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[23:44] <DeskGone> it has code in it for most formats
[23:44] <DeskGone> I've used it with bmp, jpg and png
[23:44] <dovZzzZ> ohh?
[23:44] <Ixthus_> I must have some sort of world record for dropping food on my keyboard
[23:44] <dovZzzZ> nice
[23:44] <Headspin> .net = api wrapper.. are we talking about M$ .NET??
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[23:45] <dovZzzZ> .net is not an api wrapper
[23:45] <Ixthus_> does anyone want my last California Roll?
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[23:45] <Headspin> yes it is :)
[23:45] <motonen> stupid flashme >:(
[23:45] <LunarC> what was the check for getting rid of stupid touch-screen jumps again? something to do with the z values?
[23:45] <DeskGone> we're kinda talking framework.
[23:46] <CapnSoup> Well, now that I've finished my physics homework, I dunno what else to do.
[23:46] <LunarC> CapnSoup, frolic?
[23:46] <Ixthus_> you need to use Darkfader's verion motonen >:)
[23:46] <Ixthus_> It even works as a r0mloader
[23:46] <DeskGone> dovZzzZ: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/cpref/html/frlrfsystemdrawingimagingimageformatclasspngtopic.asp
[23:46] <DeskGone> the oens it support.
[23:46] <Headspin> LunarC: there is a few ways.. either Z!=0 or last x,y <= some value
[23:46] <dovZzzZ> desk thank you..this makes my map maker simpler
[23:46] <LunarC> Z!=0 sounds easier =P
[23:46] <CapnSoup> Err... I'm not one to frolic.
[23:46] <LunarC> just z0 or both z0 and z1?
[23:46] <DeskGone> dovZzzZ: yep. got my own mapmaker in it.
[23:46] <Ixthus_> I am!
[23:46] * Ixthus_ frolics
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[23:47] <Ixthus_> night pepsi
[23:47] <pepsizzzz> night Ixthus_ 
[23:47] <CapnSoup> I think I'm going home to clean my apartment before my friend drops by.
[23:47] <Ixthus_> good plan
[23:47] <CapnSoup> Later, all.
[23:47] <Ixthus_> byebye
[23:47] <dovZzzZ> desk any good?  mine is going to be kinda complex
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[23:48] <motonen> Ixthus_, Darkfader's verion?
[23:48] <DeskGone> mine is very simple. you can paint bmps (tiles) on a layer.
[23:48] <Headspin> LunerC: http://forum.gbadev.org/viewtopic.php?t=6786
[23:48] <DeskGone> it does color-reordering and reduction though.
[23:48] <dovZzzZ> that is handy
[23:48] <dovZzzZ> not sure i will work on mine this weekend or not
[23:49] <DeskGone> I ran the output out of gfx2gba anyway, so I just needed an easy way to place tiles.
[23:49] <dovZzzZ> it is just in the early prototype phase
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[23:49] <dovZzzZ> you use dx or gdi?
[23:49] <DeskGone> gdi.
[23:49] <dovZzzZ> managed dx is pretty nice
[23:50] <dovZzzZ> has a good 2D api also
[23:50] <DeskGone> fast enough for 2000*512 so I don't mind.
[23:50] <DeskGone> gdi+ that is.
[23:50] <dovZzzZ> yah..i may look at gdi also
[23:50] <DeskGone> nothing beats gdi for simplicety.
[23:51] <DeskGone> I also got a 4 layered one around here somewhere...
[23:51] <DeskGone> that does scrolling with custom speeds.
[23:51] <dovZzzZ> I am trying to keep this as generic as possible
[23:52] <DeskGone> yeh. that's why I ditched it and sticked with the simple one
[23:52] <DeskGone> I needed to place tiles, so that's what it does :P
[23:52] <Chuck`> hmm
[23:53] <kiwibonga> hmm.. someone was being criticized in the gbadev forums for proposing an algorithm to find out which point on which triangle of a scene you will hit if you go forward with a given position + viewing angle
[23:53] <kiwibonga> but how exactly do you make a 3D scene and prevent your guy from going through the floor?
[23:53] <DeskGone> usually you introduce the concept of tiles in 3d aswell.
[23:54] * dovZzzZ is not sure
[23:54] <DeskGone> and have a similar thing to 2d, collision maps. or you can do it all in real time :P
[23:54] <dovZzzZ> i am going to do a 3D game tonight
[23:54] <dovZzzZ> well start one
[23:54] <kiwibonga> I'm learning how to use gmax for now
[23:54] <dovZzzZ> and will need to figure this out...i think i will go with real time
[23:54] <DeskGone> easier in the long run, not so easy to begin with.
[23:55] <kiwibonga> but I was just thinking about it... it's true that testing against every polygon is an extremely bad idea
[23:55] <dovZzzZ> yah...well i will need some accurate physics modeling'
[23:55] <dovZzzZ> might be fun ;)
[23:55] * dovZzzZ wanders off to class
[23:55] <kiwibonga> see ya
[23:55] <DeskGone> I cleared So Deep in the arcade today.
[23:55] * DeskGone is proud
[23:56] <buZz`> LOL
[23:56] <kiwibonga> oh... I think I see...
[23:56] <buZz`> @ sgsta1r's google adsense :
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[23:56] <buZz`> FreeDownloadtools.com/
[23:56] <buZz`> :D
[23:56] <buZz`> hahahahaha
[23:56] <kiwibonga> about tiles... you need to think of it kind of like in tony hawk's skate park builder huh?
[23:57] <kiwibonga> you have to define special properties for each "tile"
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[23:58] <kiwibonga> i.e. a half pipe isn't 5,000 tiles, it's like 4 cubes with a special behavior
[23:58] <LunarC> if( (keysHeld() & KEY_TOUCH) && (IPC->touchZ1 != 0) && (IPC->touchZ2 != 0) ) <-- the contents of this seem to be gotten to with a touch value of 0,0 once every time I lift the stylus =(
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[23:59] <kiwibonga> cause I'm thinking about mario 64 and all I know is the floor is hills and stuff... I'm really wondering how that works
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